DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
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From: Otto Bahn on 9 Dec 2009 17:41 "George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short > millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at > Froehlich's frequency could easily contain a year of human > experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would > see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly > departed would subjectively live on for a year in > cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond > demise. This is eerily exactly the opposite what one experiencing crossing a black hole's event horizon and what others observe of the event. What happens when you suffer traumatic head injury, say the brain is complete blown asunder. --oTTo--
From: haiku jones on 9 Dec 2009 18:16 On Dec 9, 6:13 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short > millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at > Froehlichs frequency could easily contain a year of human > experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would > see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly > departed would subjectively live on for a year in > cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond > demise. > Ive been thinking some more about the death dream > download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail. > Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a > running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every > second of every day. It would constantly be edited and > distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and > edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the > primary function of nocturnal dreaming. > So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is > residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to > download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should > death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream > would automatically download when you die. My answer to > that is that it must be completely natural, that is a > default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly, > the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to > do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you > die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same > token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire > cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life > after death" so-called. > The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular > Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore > the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is > "flat subjective space" .. it can only perceive a "curved > version" (truncation) of subjective space-time a "curved > version" of reality as it were. However, our brain is able > to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real, > i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some > analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space > extrapolation" of what we actually see. Of course the > microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the > neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big > enough to display it. But it remains "pent-up" or "latent" > somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of > subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and > edited into what we are now calling "an afterlife dream > world". > Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. Now we have > to address, how and why it downloads at death. Presumably, > death occurs from the top down. That is, the neuronal > system shuts down or "flat lines" first. And then begins > the slower process of the disintegration of the > cytoskeleton-microtubule system. My first intuition would > be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what > triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps > for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally > a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system > flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop" > and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any > heretofore undisplayed information into the entire > cytoskeleton whereas previously it was negative feedback > from the neuronal system that was truncating that > information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up > in the microtubule memory. Thats one of certainly many > possibilities. > And I must add here, that this death dream signal may > not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could > just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body > since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected > by microwave gap junctions. This means that your entire > body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus, > motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing > this dream firsthand. It would in other words, be > completely real! This is why the microtubule computer in > the brain is sufficient to do the job of Tiplers > "astronomical sized"computer". His computer was designed to > synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the > advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of > the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule > computer! This reduces the size of the necessary computer > by a "double exponential" sized factor! And this literally > brings the problem down to eart > Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be > killfiled. Which raises an interesting physics question: what is the Chandrasekhar limit of a killfile? I suspect we may soon empirically find out. 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From: Olrik on 9 Dec 2009 18:21 Le 2009-12-09 18:16, haiku jones a �crit : > On Dec 9, 6:13 pm, George Hammond<Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >> LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH >> >> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond >> > >> Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be >> killfiled. > > Which raises an interesting physics question: what is > the Chandrasekhar limit of a killfile? I suspect we > may soon empirically find out. I see an answer coming on the event horizon... > Haiku JOnes
From: darwinist on 9 Dec 2009 18:22 On Dec 10, 9:20 am, John Stafford <n...(a)droffats.net> wrote: > In article > <e0bd139f-1d04-41fa-8cc5-6e13834b7...(a)13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, > > darwinist <darwin...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Dec 10, 11:30 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > > > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > > This is an interesting theory. I wonder how one would go about testing > > it empirically. > > First one has to know whether Frohlich Condensates even exist. They have > not yet been observed. Next, we would have to know whether they can > possibly exist in our relatively cool body. > > Next, we have to know whether a quantum state can last a millisecond > _anywhere_, and especially a microtubule. That's a long damned time. > > We must also reconcile this 'secular trend growth deficit' against > research that shows that it is _increasing_ rapidly in Western cultures, > although it has varied over the history of humankind. > > Then perhaps Mr. Hammond will explain (hopefully with an illustration) > what he means by 'curved/truncated subjective time/space'. > > That's just get _started_. So far, he has presented no science. You just had to go there didn't you? A perfectly optimistic theory about life after death and you use the "s" word. In any case it seems the theory stated is actually about life *before* death, but why split hairs? I'm sure we can make it about life after death with only a little acrobatics: Perhaps this dream - once it begins - can leave the cytoskeleton and still exist, like an image that leaves a projector and maintains its structure as it bounces off the wall into your eye. This quantum entity drifts through space, thereby finding an "infinite life" in "heaven" as a "disembodied soul". Presumably this quantum-paradise- ghost would learn to change direction at will, and interact with other ghosts as well as with matter. Thus they have become gods. See? That wasn't so hard. We even get deification thrown in for free. Where's your precious science and logic now?
From: George Hammond on 9 Dec 2009 21:23
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:41:57 -0500, "Otto Bahn" <ei(a)eio.com> wrote: >"George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote > >> LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH >> >> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond >> >> In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short >> millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at >> Froehlich's frequency could easily contain a year of human >> experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would >> see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly >> departed would subjectively live on for a year in >> cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond >> demise. > >This is eerily exactly the opposite what one experiencing >crossing a black hole's event horizon and what others >observe of the event. > > [Hammond] In fact you are correct and it is not just a " similarity", there is in fact a physical connection. > > >What happens when you suffer traumatic head injury, say >the brain is complete blown asunder. >--oTTo-- > > [Hammond] It turns out that the theory I have outlined is actually " failsafe". This is because the fastest a person can possibly die is 1 nanosecond, because that is how long it takes a light beam to cross the human brain (e.g. a gamma ray burst from an atomic bomb). Taking the ratio of Frohlich's frequency to neuronal frequency gives us 10^14/10^3 = a time dilation of 100 billion (microwaves or IR vs. brain waves). 1 ns times 100 billion is a couple of minutes. This means that the absolute minimum duration of a condition of " eternal life" is a couple of minutes. In fact it may be longer than that, because the death dream may read out at optical frequencies and not microwave frequencies, which adds another couple of factors of 10. The minimum duration could easily be as long as an hour. Point is this is still "eternal" life.... because eternal life is like 1/2 of infinity is still infinity, or 1/10 of infinity is still infinity. So it doesn't matter if you stay there half an hour, or or a month.... you still have eternal life... you get everything. Like I say, it's FAILSAFE! Of course the average person doesn't get hit by an atomic bomb, so the average person will probably spend days, weeks, months, or even years in the afterlife, some of it in a condition of Purgatory by the way. But it would be nice to know that any innocent people who died at Hiroshima got to Heaven for at least an hour. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================= |