From: xxein on 22 Apr 2010 20:49 On Apr 20, 10:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 20, 6:57 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 10:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 19, 7:32 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 19, 6:37 pm, "CENTRINO" <n...(a)ninelandia.com> wrote: > > > > > > The fact among others that universe is expanding and its expansion is > > > > > accelerating > > > > > > ¿Could it be due the ever decreasing mass ? > > > > > > Stars are contineously burning mass, so mass decreases, and so does gravity. > > > > > > Loss of mass should not be for free, perhaps it has a double effect: mass > > > > > turns into difuse radiation ... and ... expansion becouse of constant > > > > > decrement of gravity. > > > > > > ¿Has it been taken into account in usual theories? > > > > > > Just a dark matter working hipotessis. > > > > >xxein: Be careful how you think of this. But I can sort of agree > > > > with your concern. > > > > > For some reason, we exist and can see what we can see and the > > > > existence other things that we do for their movement. It does not > > > > mean we see in a simultaneous time fashion. We see and measure as > > > > light comes to us. We make a theory that seems to cover lightspeed > > > > and it seems to describe how it affects things. > > > > > One such theory I attribute to Lorentz (although he had > > > > predecessors). But there was a gravity and Einstein tried to describe > > > > it using the Lorentian with the obvious effects of observable gravity > > > > and how it affected things. > > > > > But where did such a mass come from? It is a long but simple story. > > > > You will probably not WANT to understand it all. But if you are > > > > inclined to big bang, you can probably realise this. You will have to > > > > in order to understand the big bang at all. > > > > > How did energy/matter concentrate to produce a big bang? How did it > > > > produce matter out of it's energy release? What is the mechanism for > > > > gravity? Why is an Eath matter something like 10^28 in density of > > > > energy itself compared to free energy? > > > > > You can ask me later how this comforms to the structural integrity and > > > > transformatiom of such as our universe but I am too tired to do this > > > > right now. Tweak it out of me tomorrow. > > > > How do we see what is going on if most electromagnetism is dark? > > > > I do not think we know much of what is going on in astrophysics. > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > >xxein: Then don't make declaratory statements about it.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Since when did I declare astrophysics xxein? > > I have a theory of whole gravity. And I see that Dark Matter would > make up most of the solar system if it had a common origin at the Big > Bang. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - xxein: Do you know how this universe works or do you just postulate? Dorothy in Oz had the same problem. What is real? It is easy to look at our universe and postulate an "is". It is harder to project the future state of it. But not nearly as hard as to derive where it came from or how and why. You need to do a lot more of critical thinking before you spout off with your little blurbs.
From: BURT on 22 Apr 2010 21:22
On Apr 22, 5:49 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Apr 20, 10:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 6:57 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On Apr 19, 10:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 19, 7:32 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 19, 6:37 pm, "CENTRINO" <n...(a)ninelandia.com> wrote: > > > > > > > The fact among others that universe is expanding and its expansion is > > > > > > accelerating > > > > > > > ¿Could it be due the ever decreasing mass ? > > > > > > > Stars are contineously burning mass, so mass decreases, and so does gravity. > > > > > > > Loss of mass should not be for free, perhaps it has a double effect: mass > > > > > > turns into difuse radiation ... and ... expansion becouse of constant > > > > > > decrement of gravity. > > > > > > > ¿Has it been taken into account in usual theories? > > > > > > > Just a dark matter working hipotessis. > > > > > >xxein: Be careful how you think of this. But I can sort of agree > > > > > with your concern. > > > > > > For some reason, we exist and can see what we can see and the > > > > > existence other things that we do for their movement. It does not > > > > > mean we see in a simultaneous time fashion. We see and measure as > > > > > light comes to us. We make a theory that seems to cover lightspeed > > > > > and it seems to describe how it affects things. > > > > > > One such theory I attribute to Lorentz (although he had > > > > > predecessors). But there was a gravity and Einstein tried to describe > > > > > it using the Lorentian with the obvious effects of observable gravity > > > > > and how it affected things. > > > > > > But where did such a mass come from? It is a long but simple story. > > > > > You will probably not WANT to understand it all. But if you are > > > > > inclined to big bang, you can probably realise this. You will have to > > > > > in order to understand the big bang at all. > > > > > > How did energy/matter concentrate to produce a big bang? How did it > > > > > produce matter out of it's energy release? What is the mechanism for > > > > > gravity? Why is an Eath matter something like 10^28 in density of > > > > > energy itself compared to free energy? > > > > > > You can ask me later how this comforms to the structural integrity and > > > > > transformatiom of such as our universe but I am too tired to do this > > > > > right now. Tweak it out of me tomorrow. > > > > > How do we see what is going on if most electromagnetism is dark? > > > > > I do not think we know much of what is going on in astrophysics. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > >xxein: Then don't make declaratory statements about it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Since when did I declare astrophysics xxein? > > > I have a theory of whole gravity. And I see that Dark Matter would > > make up most of the solar system if it had a common origin at the Big > > Bang. > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > xxein: Do you know how this universe works or do you just postulate? > Dorothy in Oz had the same problem. What is real? > > It is easy to look at our universe and postulate an "is". It is > harder to project the future state of it. But not nearly as hard as > to derive where it came from or how and why. > > You need to do a lot more of critical thinking before you spout off > with your little blurbs.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dark matter would have a comon origin at the Big Bang. But it is not comnigling with the Earth. How is it going to seperate from normal matter since the beginning? Everything should be made mostly of it. But there is no evidene at all for this. Mitch Raemsch |