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From: Matthew Smith on 22 Oct 2009 04:30
Quoth Tanco . at 2009-10-22 18:28...
> Which rare intel CPUs?
> p4 core2duo , p4 D series processors.. got nothing
> however even if the cpu version is wrong..
> the start screen should show up?
> I get completely nothing from the Install?

Core2Duo is amd64, not ia64. I believe that ia64 is used in some
servers, but the common one is amd64 as the previous poster said.

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From: Alexey Salmin on 22 Oct 2009 04:30
IA-64 - Intel Itanium and Itanium2 processors.
Core 2 is Intel64/EMT64/AMD64/X86_64 (different names of the same thing)
You should use amd64 debian port.
Try reading some wiki-articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-64
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

2009/10/22 Tanco . <smarkovik(a)gmail.com>:
> Which rare intel CPUs?
> p4 core2duo , p4 D series processors.. got nothing
> however even if the cpu version is wrong..
> the start screen should show up?
> I get completely nothing from the Install?
>
>
> Ãéþñãïò ÐÜëëáò wrote:
>>
>> Tanco wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am writing to report that the ia64 dvd image is broken,
>>> somehow after about 3-4 separate downloads none of the images was
>>> bootable,
>>> you put the DVD in / mount it to vbox , the power on and nothing happends
>>> ,
>>> then the system hangs..
>>> after that i downloaded the i386 img and installed the 32 bit version,
>>> this is actually an old issue,
>>> It happend to me somewhere before the official release but I didn't give
>>> it much thought
>>> since it was still in rc.
>>> but now I think it is a big issue...
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Tanco
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I guess you already know that ia64 arch is for some rare special Intel
>> CPUs. Are you 100% positive that you don't want amd64 instead?
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From: Michal on 22 Oct 2009 06:50
Alexey Salmin wrote:
> IA-64 - Intel Itanium and Itanium2 processors.
> Core 2 is Intel64/EMT64/AMD64/X86_64 (different names of the same thing)
> You should use amd64 debian port.
> Try reading some wiki-articles:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-64
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
>

Like he said you probably don't want ia64. If you don't know if your
running Itanium, I would say you probably not running Itanium
> 2009/10/22 Tanco . <smarkovik(a)gmail.com>:
>
>> Which rare intel CPUs?
>> p4 core2duo , p4 D series processors.. got nothing
>> however even if the cpu version is wrong..
>> the start screen should show up?
>> I get completely nothing from the Install?
>>
>>
>> ������� ������ wrote:
>>
>>> Tanco wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am writing to report that the ia64 dvd image is broken,
>>>> somehow after about 3-4 separate downloads none of the images was
>>>> bootable,
>>>> you put the DVD in / mount it to vbox , the power on and nothing happends
>>>> ,
>>>> then the system hangs..
>>>> after that i downloaded the i386 img and installed the 32 bit version,
>>>> this is actually an old issue,
>>>> It happend to me somewhere before the official release but I didn't give
>>>> it much thought
>>>> since it was still in rc.
>>>> but now I think it is a big issue...
>>>>
>>>> best regards
>>>> Tanco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I guess you already know that ia64 arch is for some rare special Intel
>>> CPUs. Are you 100% positive that you don't want amd64 instead?
>>>
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From: Paul E Condon on 22 Oct 2009 11:20
On 20091022_095833, Tanco . wrote:
> Which rare intel CPUs?
> p4 core2duo , p4 D series processors.. got nothing
> however even if the cpu version is wrong..
> the start screen should show up?
> I get completely nothing from the Install?
>

Tanco,

I think all Debian install disks are configured to boot on the target
hardware. They contain boot sector information which includes
executable machine code for the target cpu. The OS that they load onto
the hardware can only function on the target hardware type. On your
hardware, ia64 machine code crashes well before it is in any condition
to issue an error message, much less paint a multicolored screen
image.

It is misleading to suggest that the problem is that ia64 is a rare
or unpopular or whatever architecture. Try the CD for PowerPC
architecture, or for ARM. I think you will experience the same
behavior (that is if you are not actually using PowerPC or ARM ;-)

HTH
Paul

>
> ?????????????? ???????????? wrote:
>> Tanco wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I am writing to report that the ia64 dvd image is broken,
>>> somehow after about 3-4 separate downloads none of the images was
>>> bootable,
>>> you put the DVD in / mount it to vbox , the power on and nothing
>>> happends ,
>>> then the system hangs..
>>> after that i downloaded the i386 img and installed the 32 bit version,
>>> this is actually an old issue,
>>> It happend to me somewhere before the official release but I didn't
>>> give it much thought
>>> since it was still in rc.
>>> but now I think it is a big issue...
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Tanco
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I guess you already know that ia64 arch is for some rare special Intel
>> CPUs. Are you 100% positive that you don't want amd64 instead?
>
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From: Mr. Wang Long on 23 Oct 2009 03:40
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 16:27, Matthew Smith <matt(a)smiffytech.com> wrote:
> Quoth Tanco . at 2009-10-22 18:28...
>> Which rare intel CPUs?
>> p4 core2duo , p4 D series processors.. got nothing
>> however even if the cpu version is wrong..
>> the start screen should show up?
>> I get completely nothing from the Install?
>
> Core2Duo is amd64, not ia64.  I believe that ia64 is used in some
> servers, but the common one is amd64 as the previous poster said.
>
> M
>
More over, to install amd64 guest OS into virtualbox, you probably need
CPUs that support VT-X, and need that feature enabled in both virtualbox
and BIOS. You may check whether your CPUs support that feature by:

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep vmx

Besides, please note in some weird BIOS VT-X cannot be turned on


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