From: MM on
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:53:41 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
wrote:

>MM wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:16:36 -0500, "Nobody" <nobody(a)nobody.com> wrote:
>>> "ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote in message
>>> news:96ndp5546ejmhcoccqbtkifl1tq9sng1pv(a)4ax.com...
>>>> It used to be available as a free-download.
>>>> [http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ee410535.aspx] ???
>>>
>>> It's still freely downloadable from the link you provided.
>>
>> I've just downloaded ALL the items on that page. In these days of
>> massive hard drives, plus DVD blanks for a few cents/pennies each,
>> I've got nothing to lose by grabbing them while they're still
>> available.
>
>They've already been taken down, at least once. Last time I noticed, I
>rattled cages at MSFT until someone woke-up, and promised to get them
>back online. Of course, no one knew where they were at that point. So
>I pointed them to http://vb.mvps.org/tools/ControlsAndComponents.asp.
>Notice any similarities? Yeah, they didn't know what the binaries
>were, anymore, either. It's good to know I'm not the *only* one
>providing backup storage for them anymore. ;-)

Did you try unpacking the file VB5Docs.exe from the link "Visual
Basics Docs folder from VB 5.0 CD (VB5)", because when I did the
installation routine prompted to "Insert disk 2". Also I got a
Close/Ignore error in Smsisstub.

MM
From: MM on
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:55:03 -0600, ralph <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net>
wrote:

>Though the years I have meticulously grabbed items (source, utilities,
>articles, ...) and stored them away. Have quite a useful collection,
>well ... kinda useful.
>
>They now all occupy several cubic meters in a closet. Now if I could
>only identify just where in that pile something was located ...

Me, too! I have *crates* of the stuff! I am a natural hoarder anyway
(must get around to burying the grandparents one of these days...) and
still have not one, but TWO TRS-80s!

I once started to catalogue everything, but it really is a boring job.
The closest I've come to finding stuff is by using DriveScan Plus,
which I registered years ago. http://www.diginvent.com/drivescan/

Currently in there I have 67,191 files in 69 CD-ROMs totally over 4gb.
But I also have numerous cover-mount CD-ROMs and DVDs going back
several years, plus all the VBPJ CDs, some Dr Dobbs, PC Magazine etc
etc.

What often happens, though, is that instead of searching my stash I
look on the web instead. When I die there's gonna be a huge bonfire
somewhere lit by people who just DON'T understand, :(

MM
From: MM on
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0600, ralph <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:07:56 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>One of my main regrets is that I wasn't aware of (maybe it didn't
>>exist?) WinImage at the time I started archiving MS-BASIC bits. :-(
>
>Mine is not immediately converting all my 5 1/4 floopies to 1.44 or CD
>when I actually had a working machine that could do that. <g>

I started doing this about a year ago. I knew I still had a 5� inch
floppy drive somewhere, and I had an old 486 machine with a network
card in it. So I pulled out the by then defunct HP CD Writer and stuck
the 5�" drive in there instead. Currently I've uploaded to my PC loads
of floppies, like Basic 7.1, Masm 1.25, Masm 5.10, Music Quest, QB 3,
QB 4.00B, Quick C Programmers' Toolbox, Turbo Pascal 3.02, Turbo
Pascal 5.5, and loads of others.

However, both the QuickC and the Turbo Pascal stuff came in handy when
I was developing the initial stages of my piano project, as most of
the code I needed to understand wasn't BASIC code. I ended up
converting an entire Pascal program to VB* in one case! It was quite
simple, really. Far easier than converting C, which I loathe as much
as OOP for its arcane nature.

* http://hdebruijn.soo.dto.tudelft.nl/www/muziek/delphi/vb_One2Nul.zip

MM
From: MM on
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:30:56 +0100, "Helmut Meukel"
<NoSpam(a)NoProvider.de> wrote:

>
>"ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:1d4gp5ps8sdtd3lv82vj9pd11mjqet5puf(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:07:56 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>One of my main regrets is that I wasn't aware of (maybe it didn't
>>>exist?) WinImage at the time I started archiving MS-BASIC bits. :-(
>>
>> Mine is not immediately converting all my 5 1/4 floopies to 1.44 or CD
>> when I actually had a working machine that could do that. <g>
>>
>> -ralph
>
>I still have a working(?) 5 1/4 floppy drive. About three years ago i got
>a new PC and thought I would there install the old drive. No chance, the
>BIOS refused to recognize the drive. :-(
>I'm quite certain the drive is ok. It was ok when I removed it from an
>old PC and wrapped it into a plastic bag, about 15 years ago.

You should be able to pick up an older PC for next to nothing which
will recognise old floppy drives. I still have a Viglen PC dating back
10 years at least. It's incredibly slow, but for uploading old
floppies to my main PC works fine. I can leave it running all night if
necessary. That Viglen, by the way, was ultra reliable and built like
a Merc. Do they make them like that any longer, I wonder? (I build my
own PCs nowadays and haven't bought a new one since the Viglen.)

MM
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