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From: MM on 11 Mar 2010 04:31 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:53:41 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: >MM wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:16:36 -0500, "Nobody" <nobody(a)nobody.com> wrote: >>> "ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote in message >>> news:96ndp5546ejmhcoccqbtkifl1tq9sng1pv(a)4ax.com... >>>> It used to be available as a free-download. >>>> [http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ee410535.aspx] ??? >>> >>> It's still freely downloadable from the link you provided. >> >> I've just downloaded ALL the items on that page. In these days of >> massive hard drives, plus DVD blanks for a few cents/pennies each, >> I've got nothing to lose by grabbing them while they're still >> available. > >They've already been taken down, at least once. Last time I noticed, I >rattled cages at MSFT until someone woke-up, and promised to get them >back online. Of course, no one knew where they were at that point. So >I pointed them to http://vb.mvps.org/tools/ControlsAndComponents.asp. >Notice any similarities? Yeah, they didn't know what the binaries >were, anymore, either. It's good to know I'm not the *only* one >providing backup storage for them anymore. ;-) Did you try unpacking the file VB5Docs.exe from the link "Visual Basics Docs folder from VB 5.0 CD (VB5)", because when I did the installation routine prompted to "Insert disk 2". Also I got a Close/Ignore error in Smsisstub. MM
From: MM on 11 Mar 2010 04:40 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:55:03 -0600, ralph <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote: >Though the years I have meticulously grabbed items (source, utilities, >articles, ...) and stored them away. Have quite a useful collection, >well ... kinda useful. > >They now all occupy several cubic meters in a closet. Now if I could >only identify just where in that pile something was located ... Me, too! I have *crates* of the stuff! I am a natural hoarder anyway (must get around to burying the grandparents one of these days...) and still have not one, but TWO TRS-80s! I once started to catalogue everything, but it really is a boring job. The closest I've come to finding stuff is by using DriveScan Plus, which I registered years ago. http://www.diginvent.com/drivescan/ Currently in there I have 67,191 files in 69 CD-ROMs totally over 4gb. But I also have numerous cover-mount CD-ROMs and DVDs going back several years, plus all the VBPJ CDs, some Dr Dobbs, PC Magazine etc etc. What often happens, though, is that instead of searching my stash I look on the web instead. When I die there's gonna be a huge bonfire somewhere lit by people who just DON'T understand, :( MM
From: MM on 11 Mar 2010 05:00 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:42:26 -0600, ralph <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:07:56 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> >wrote: > > >> >>One of my main regrets is that I wasn't aware of (maybe it didn't >>exist?) WinImage at the time I started archiving MS-BASIC bits. :-( > >Mine is not immediately converting all my 5 1/4 floopies to 1.44 or CD >when I actually had a working machine that could do that. <g> I started doing this about a year ago. I knew I still had a 5� inch floppy drive somewhere, and I had an old 486 machine with a network card in it. So I pulled out the by then defunct HP CD Writer and stuck the 5�" drive in there instead. Currently I've uploaded to my PC loads of floppies, like Basic 7.1, Masm 1.25, Masm 5.10, Music Quest, QB 3, QB 4.00B, Quick C Programmers' Toolbox, Turbo Pascal 3.02, Turbo Pascal 5.5, and loads of others. However, both the QuickC and the Turbo Pascal stuff came in handy when I was developing the initial stages of my piano project, as most of the code I needed to understand wasn't BASIC code. I ended up converting an entire Pascal program to VB* in one case! It was quite simple, really. Far easier than converting C, which I loathe as much as OOP for its arcane nature. * http://hdebruijn.soo.dto.tudelft.nl/www/muziek/delphi/vb_One2Nul.zip MM
From: MM on 11 Mar 2010 05:04
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:30:56 +0100, "Helmut Meukel" <NoSpam(a)NoProvider.de> wrote: > >"ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >news:1d4gp5ps8sdtd3lv82vj9pd11mjqet5puf(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:07:56 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>One of my main regrets is that I wasn't aware of (maybe it didn't >>>exist?) WinImage at the time I started archiving MS-BASIC bits. :-( >> >> Mine is not immediately converting all my 5 1/4 floopies to 1.44 or CD >> when I actually had a working machine that could do that. <g> >> >> -ralph > >I still have a working(?) 5 1/4 floppy drive. About three years ago i got >a new PC and thought I would there install the old drive. No chance, the >BIOS refused to recognize the drive. :-( >I'm quite certain the drive is ok. It was ok when I removed it from an >old PC and wrapped it into a plastic bag, about 15 years ago. You should be able to pick up an older PC for next to nothing which will recognise old floppy drives. I still have a Viglen PC dating back 10 years at least. It's incredibly slow, but for uploading old floppies to my main PC works fine. I can leave it running all night if necessary. That Viglen, by the way, was ultra reliable and built like a Merc. Do they make them like that any longer, I wonder? (I build my own PCs nowadays and haven't bought a new one since the Viglen.) MM |