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From: Androcles on 9 Nov 2009 15:06

"Benj" <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 2:03 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a little like saying that there is nothing different between
> cows and elephants. Both walk on four legs, have hair, and eat grass.

Say, wait a minute. Now that you put it that way, there IS nothing
different between cows and elephants!

======================================
Female elephants are called ... wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...
"cows"!

There is no difference between bullshit, cowshit and Phuckwit Duck.






From: John Jones on 9 Nov 2009 17:05
PD wrote:
> On Nov 9, 6:37 am, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Nothing new about reality has been proposed by quantum theory.
>>
>> Quantum objects and Newtonian objects both have the property of being
>> present even when they are hidden. The only difference between them is
>> that only quantum objects are "necessarily" hidden.
>>
>> Quantum objects are necessarily hidden because they are smaller than the
>> Planck length and not directly observable. That doesn't make them
>> function as gateways to parallel worlds or mysterious realms of
>> possibility. I think we need to sober up over the Great Quantum Hype
>> that is regularly doled out to us by laymen and scientists alike.
>
> See Bell's theorem for a clear difference between quantum and
> classical physics.

You see it, I've got things to do.
From: John Jones on 9 Nov 2009 17:06
PD wrote:
> On Nov 9, 6:37 am, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Nothing new about reality has been proposed by quantum theory.
>>
>> Quantum objects and Newtonian objects both have the property of being
>> present even when they are hidden. The only difference between them is
>> that only quantum objects are "necessarily" hidden.
>>
>> Quantum objects are necessarily hidden because they are smaller than the
>> Planck length and not directly observable. That doesn't make them
>> function as gateways to parallel worlds or mysterious realms of
>> possibility. I think we need to sober up over the Great Quantum Hype
>> that is regularly doled out to us by laymen and scientists alike.
>
> This is a little like saying that there is nothing different between
> cows and elephants. Both walk on four legs, have hair, and eat grass.

Believe me, there's nothing new under the sun.
From: PD on 9 Nov 2009 17:41
On Nov 9, 4:05 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> PD wrote:
> > On Nov 9, 6:37 am, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Nothing new about reality has been proposed by quantum theory.
>
> >> Quantum objects and Newtonian objects both have the property of being
> >> present even when they are hidden. The only difference between them is
> >> that only quantum objects are "necessarily" hidden.
>
> >> Quantum objects are necessarily hidden because they are smaller than the
> >> Planck length and not directly observable. That doesn't make them
> >> function as gateways to parallel worlds or mysterious realms of
> >> possibility. I think we need to sober up over the Great Quantum Hype
> >> that is regularly doled out to us by laymen and scientists alike.
>
> > See Bell's theorem for a clear difference between quantum and
> > classical physics.
>
> You see it, I've got things to do.

Yeah, I know. It's more important to chuck the rotten cantelope across
the fence than it is to have a good reason for doing it.
From: PD on 9 Nov 2009 17:42
On Nov 9, 4:06 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> PD wrote:
> > On Nov 9, 6:37 am, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Nothing new about reality has been proposed by quantum theory.
>
> >> Quantum objects and Newtonian objects both have the property of being
> >> present even when they are hidden. The only difference between them is
> >> that only quantum objects are "necessarily" hidden.
>
> >> Quantum objects are necessarily hidden because they are smaller than the
> >> Planck length and not directly observable. That doesn't make them
> >> function as gateways to parallel worlds or mysterious realms of
> >> possibility. I think we need to sober up over the Great Quantum Hype
> >> that is regularly doled out to us by laymen and scientists alike.
>
> > This is a little like saying that there is nothing different between
> > cows and elephants. Both walk on four legs, have hair, and eat grass.
>
> Believe me, there's nothing new under the sun.

Well, as uncomfortable as it may seem to you, we don't know everything
about what's under the sun, and we're still learning about that. Some
of the things we're learning are surprising. This tends to make the
Dustin Hoffman character in Rainman a little screamish too.
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