Dell Dim 8300 - System Slow to Boot-Up
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From: Daave on 23 Dec 2009 20:42 charliech(a)email.com wrote: > My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can > think of is I'm running NAV 2010. I'm sure that's what it is. > What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be > causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, > looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see > anything. It may be scanning. At the very least, it's updating. Norton has a reputation for hogging resources. Supposedly, it's not as bad as it once was. But I would never let it touch my PC. I am sure if you were to uninstall it and use alternative methods to keep your PC secure, you would not experience long bootup times. Out of curiosity, once the bootup is complete and things "settle," how is your performance? > Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is > so slow? You can configure a Clean Boot and systematically re-enable programs and processes: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796 > I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk > space. > > Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. > > Charliec
From: charliech on 23 Dec 2009 20:47 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:33:20 -0500, Daddy <daddy(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >charliech(a)email.com wrote: >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:02:05 -0500, Ben Myers <ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote: >>>>> Any chance it is running in PIO mode and not DMA if it pertains to this >>>>> system? My son was having similar problems earlier this year until I >>>>> had him check it. >>>>> Charles >>>> What are these modes (PIO & DMA) and how do you check them? >>>> Charliec >>> PIO and DMA modes are the original slow and the newer fast way of >>> reading and writing hard disks. I can't recall if the 8300 BIOS has >>> discrete settings for PIO or DMA access on a per disk or system-wide >>> basis. The other place to check is Device Manager under the System icon >>> in Control Panel... Ben Myers >> >> I checked in Device Manager for the harddrive and did not see any >> reference to PIO or DMA on any of the tabs under properties? What am >> I amissing? >> charliec > >Do you now or did you at any time have the Intel Application Accelerator >installed? IIA performs many HDD configuration tasks, and it will hide >the Advanced Settings tab. > >Daddy > >Daddy Not that I am aware of - do not know what it is! charliec
From: Daddy on 23 Dec 2009 21:45 Daave wrote: > charliech(a)email.com wrote: >> My system now takes 5-6 minutes to boot-up. The only thing I can >> think of is I'm running NAV 2010. > > I'm sure that's what it is. > >> What setting(s) in Nav2010 might be >> causing the system to be so slow at boot-up - I checked the Settings, >> looking for something that might say "scan at startup" but did not see >> anything. > > It may be scanning. At the very least, it's updating. Norton has a > reputation for hogging resources. Supposedly, it's not as bad as it once > was. But I would never let it touch my PC. > > I am sure if you were to uninstall it and use alternative methods to > keep your PC secure, you would not experience long bootup times. > > Out of curiosity, once the bootup is complete and things "settle," how > is your performance? > >> Are there other things I can look at to determine why the boot-up is >> so slow? > > You can configure a Clean Boot and systematically re-enable programs and > processes: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796 > >> I have a Dell Dim 8300, 4GB memory, WinXP SP3 and plenty of disk >> space. >> >> Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated. >> >> Charliec > > Not to be a troublemaker, but I did mention in my initial post that my Dell desktop is from the same era as the OP's desktop, that I also had NIS 2010, and that my PC boots to a working desktop in two minutes. Daddy
From: Daddy on 23 Dec 2009 21:58 charliech(a)email.com wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:33:20 -0500, Daddy <daddy(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> charliech(a)email.com wrote: >>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:02:05 -0500, Ben Myers <ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote: >>>>>> Any chance it is running in PIO mode and not DMA if it pertains to this >>>>>> system? My son was having similar problems earlier this year until I >>>>>> had him check it. >>>>>> Charles >>>>> What are these modes (PIO & DMA) and how do you check them? >>>>> Charliec >>>> PIO and DMA modes are the original slow and the newer fast way of >>>> reading and writing hard disks. I can't recall if the 8300 BIOS has >>>> discrete settings for PIO or DMA access on a per disk or system-wide >>>> basis. The other place to check is Device Manager under the System icon >>>> in Control Panel... Ben Myers >>> I checked in Device Manager for the harddrive and did not see any >>> reference to PIO or DMA on any of the tabs under properties? What am >>> I amissing? >>> charliec >> Do you now or did you at any time have the Intel Application Accelerator >> installed? IIA performs many HDD configuration tasks, and it will hide >> the Advanced Settings tab. >> >> Daddy >> >> Daddy > > Not that I am aware of - do not know what it is! > charliec Go to Add/Remove Programs...do you see the Intel Application Accelerator listed? Uninstall it and restart your computer. If you don't see it in Add/Remove Programs: Do you have the file IdeBusDr.sys on your system? (Search for it; it's a hidden file.) If so, you had the IAA at one time, and this file was left behind by the installer. This actually happened to me. If so, download the IAA, reinstall it, re-boot, uninstall it, reboot and voila! The Advanced Settings tab re-appears. Daddy
From: Nick on 23 Dec 2009 22:47
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:45:43 -0500, in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell, Daddy <daddy(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Not to be a troublemaker, but I did mention in my initial post that my >Dell desktop is from the same era as the OP's desktop, that I also had >NIS 2010, and that my PC boots to a working desktop in two minutes. I'm also using NIS 2010, and my bootups are nice and fast. -- Nick <mailto:tanstaafl(a)pobox.com> |