From: orbro on 22 Jul 2010 05:56 Download: http://www.kace.com/products/freetools/secure-browser/download.php Article about the release: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/workspace-it/2010/07/20/dell-launches- sandboxed-version-of-firefox-36-40089588/?s_cid=938 O
From: Mark Warner on 22 Jul 2010 10:34 orbro wrote: > Download: > http://www.kace.com/products/freetools/secure-browser/download.php > > Article about the release: > http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/workspace-it/2010/07/20/dell-launches-sandboxed-version-of-firefox-36-40089588/?s_cid=938 Looks interesting. Has to help. Although it may be a little too strict for your typical home user, depending on how difficult it would be to override the add-on blocking. If nothing else, it should help prevent the installation of all the freaking toolbars that I see. -- Mark Warner ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: VanguardLH on 22 Jul 2010 13:36 orbro wrote: > Download: > http://www. kace. com/products/freetools/secure-browser/download.php > > Article about the release: > http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/workspace-it/2010/07/20/dell-launches- > sandboxed-version-of-firefox-36-40089588/?s_cid=938 But you can already do sandboxing of ANY web browser by using Sandboxie. GesWall affords another choice (sandbox plus policy enforcement plus tracking and limiting w/choice any downloaded files). Avast has its own sandbox alas not in the freeware version. Comodo's firewall has a sandbox. These aren't limited to walling off just one lone application. Or you could do the unthinkable and login under a limited account to reduce priviliges for your web browser's process - or you could login in under an admin-level account but run your web browser under a LUA (limited user account) by using something like OnlineArmor with its RunSafe option or just use SRPs (software restriction policies) already available in Windows XP+ (once you define the 'basic' mode under which to run a process). Besides just cleaning up (wiping) the environment or sandbox used just for the web browser, you could virtualize your entire OS (but without the slowness of using a virtual machine that emulates all hardware except the CPU) by using Returnil Home. Then if anything leaked past the sandbox or you got socially engineered to permit something to run outside the sandbox, a reboot of your host wipes it ALL back to a prior known or baseline state. Sandboxing or virtualizing the web browser is hardly new. That Dell/Kace makes it appear something fantastic and new shows just how far behind they are. Why would I want to sandbox just one particular web browser, anyway? I might not be using another web browser but if I did then just how would sandboxing for FF help later with other web browsers? Use something that covers all web browser, or even other Internet-facing apps, like e-mail clients, newsreaders, etc. For most users beyond the noob stage of expertise, just running the process under a LUA token is sufficient (and all the other cleanup can be automated by configuration options of the programs or by using 3rd party tools that you can even schedule using Task Scheduler). Why would you add bloat for just one web browser? If you're going to add the bloat, make it handle all web browser or even other types of apps, like anything that can connect to the Internet. Maybe this is just a preview of the Kace Kontainer sandbox and maybe they'll expand it to cover any process the user chooses. Alas, as seen by reviewing it (http://www.kace.com/products/overview/virtual-kontainers.php), it looks like they have a whole commercial suite of products so they just dropped this little gem to lure customers to their bigger solutions.
From: mike on 22 Jul 2010 14:43 VanguardLH wrote: snip > Or you could do the unthinkable and login under a limited account to > reduce priviliges for your web browser's process - or you could login in > under an admin-level account but run your web browser under a LUA Doesn't "dropmyrights" do this? It's rather painless. snip
From: Craig on 22 Jul 2010 16:38 On 07/22/2010 12:34 PM, me(a)tadyatam.invalid wrote: > Hmm, perhaps Dell should sandbox some of its H/W, too? > > http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2010/07/pc-giant-warns-of-hardware-tro.html /That/ was enlightening. thx, -- -Craig
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