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From: N_Cook on 13 May 2010 03:36 Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... > "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message > news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf to > text that can be applied. > Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was looking > for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference. > From the example I had in front of me > Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish > 112 pins in total > > I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish , > presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one > (part > only) > http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv > > _________________ > > Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf file > from that link. > The IC pinouts are quite readable. > > Colin @ CATronics > > > > Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had to grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance Just in case anyone has cottoned on to the intention of the thread. The following is for an 80 pin device originally on good pdf graphic as 24/16/24/16 pins. Starting pin 1 lower left corner and anticlockwise. Horizontal pinning with text vertical and Gnd text white in black block and Vcc in grey blocks. This is as a straight listing 1 DISCON# 2 VCC 3 GND 4 CLK24 5 GND 6 GND 7 A0 8 A1 9 A2 10 A3 11 A4 12 A5 13 GND 14 GND 15 A6 16 A7 17 GND 18 AGND 19 XIN 20 XOUT 21 AVCC 22 VCC 23 GND 24 EA 25 RESET 26 A8 27 A9 28 A10 29 A11 30 PC0/RxD0 31 PC1/TxD0 32 PC2/INT0# 33 PC3/INT1# 34 A12 35 A13 36 A14 37 A15 38 PC4/T0 39 PC5/T1 40 PC6/WR# 41 PB7/T2out 42 VCC 43 GND 44 PB0/T2 45 PB1/T2EX 46 PB2/RxD1 47 PB3/TxD1 48 D0 49 D1 50 D2 51 D3 52 PB4/INT4 53 PB5/INT5# 54 PB6/INT6 55 PC7/RD# 56 GND 57 D4 58 D5 59 D6 60 D7 61 BKPT 62 VCC 63 GND 64 SDA 65 SCL 66 WAKEUP# 67 NC 68 PA0/T0out 69 PA1/T1out 70 PA2/OE# 71 PA3/CS# 72 GND 73 PA4/FWR# 74 PA5/FRD# 75 PA6/RXD0out 76 PA7/RXD1out 77 USBD- 78 GND 79 USBD+ 80 PSEN# and this the mangled version via Foxit text capture 80 PQFP 14x20mm label in middle SDA BKPT PB2/RxD1 PB1/T2EX PC7/RD# GND VCC D7 D6 D5 D4 GND PB7/T2out PB6/INT6 PB5/INT5# PB4/INT4 D3 D2 D1 D0 PB3/TxD1 PB0/T2 GND VCC 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 4164 63 62 61 47 PC6/WR#SCL 4065 PC5/T1WAKEUP# 66 39 PC4/T0 NC 3867 PA0/T0out A15 3768 PA1/T1out A14 3669 PA2/OE# A13 3570 PA3/CS# A12 3471 80 PQFP GND PC3/INT1# 3372 PA4/FWR# PC2/INT0# 3273 14x20mm PA5/FRD# PC1/TxD0 3174 PA6/RXD0out PC0/RxD0 3075 PA7/RXD1out A11 2976 A10 USBD- 2877 GND A9 2778 USBD+ A8 2679 PSEN# RESET 2580 123456789 11 15 23 10 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 24 18 T A6 A7A0 A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 EA XIN VCCVCC GND GND GNDGND GND GND GND AVCC XOU AGND CLK24 DISCON# I could not find a correlation between the mangled order and word length or word start or end position
From: Scott on 13 May 2010 10:30 "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message news:hsga2c$hmk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message > news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... >> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf >> to >> text that can be applied. >> Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was > looking >> for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference. >> From the example I had in front of me >> Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish >> 112 pins in total >> >> I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish , >> presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one >> (part >> only) >> http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv >> >> _________________ >> >> Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf > file >> from that link. >> The IC pinouts are quite readable. >> >> Colin @ CATronics >> >> >> >> > > Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had > to > grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance > > Just in case anyone has cottoned on to the intention of the thread. The > following is for an 80 pin device originally on good pdf graphic as > 24/16/24/16 pins. Starting pin 1 lower left corner and anticlockwise. > Horizontal pinning with text vertical and Gnd text white in black block > and > Vcc in grey blocks. This is as a straight listing > 1 DISCON# > 2 VCC > 3 GND > 4 CLK24 > 5 GND > 6 GND > 7 A0 > 8 A1 > 9 A2 > 10 A3 > 11 A4 > 12 A5 > 13 GND > 14 GND > 15 A6 > 16 A7 > 17 GND > 18 AGND > 19 XIN > 20 XOUT > 21 AVCC > 22 VCC > 23 GND > 24 EA > 25 RESET > 26 A8 > 27 A9 > 28 A10 > 29 A11 > 30 PC0/RxD0 > 31 PC1/TxD0 > 32 PC2/INT0# > 33 PC3/INT1# > 34 A12 > 35 A13 > 36 A14 > 37 A15 > 38 PC4/T0 > 39 PC5/T1 > 40 PC6/WR# > 41 PB7/T2out > 42 VCC > 43 GND > 44 PB0/T2 > 45 PB1/T2EX > 46 PB2/RxD1 > 47 PB3/TxD1 > 48 D0 > 49 D1 > 50 D2 > 51 D3 > 52 PB4/INT4 > 53 PB5/INT5# > 54 PB6/INT6 > 55 PC7/RD# > 56 GND > 57 D4 > 58 D5 > 59 D6 > 60 D7 > 61 BKPT > 62 VCC > 63 GND > 64 SDA > 65 SCL > 66 WAKEUP# > 67 NC > 68 PA0/T0out > 69 PA1/T1out > 70 PA2/OE# > 71 PA3/CS# > 72 GND > 73 PA4/FWR# > 74 PA5/FRD# > 75 PA6/RXD0out > 76 PA7/RXD1out > 77 USBD- > 78 GND > 79 USBD+ > 80 PSEN# > > > and this the mangled version via Foxit text capture > > 80 PQFP > 14x20mm > label in middle > > SDA BKPT PB2/RxD1 PB1/T2EX PC7/RD# > GND VCC D7 D6 D5 D4 GND PB7/T2out PB6/INT6 PB5/INT5# PB4/INT4 D3 D2 D1 D0 > PB3/TxD1 PB0/T2 GND VCC > 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 4164 63 62 61 > 47 > PC6/WR#SCL > 4065 > PC5/T1WAKEUP# > 66 > 39 > PC4/T0 > NC > 3867 > PA0/T0out > A15 > 3768 > PA1/T1out > A14 > 3669 > PA2/OE# > A13 > 3570 > PA3/CS# > A12 > 3471 > 80 PQFP > GND > PC3/INT1# > 3372 > PA4/FWR# > PC2/INT0# > 3273 > 14x20mm > PA5/FRD# > PC1/TxD0 > 3174 > PA6/RXD0out > PC0/RxD0 > 3075 > PA7/RXD1out > A11 > 2976 > A10 > USBD- > 2877 > GND > A9 > 2778 > USBD+ > A8 > 2679 > PSEN# > RESET > 2580 > 123456789 11 15 23 > 10 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 24 > 18 > T > A6 A7A0 A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 > EA > XIN > VCCVCC > GND GND GNDGND GND GND GND > AVCC > XOU > AGND > CLK24 > DISCON# > > I could not find a correlation between the mangled order and word length > or > word start or end position > > Not that it will help, but the (non)order is likely the order in which is was composed, using individual blocks of text. And it reflects the order of those layers within the PDF. The PDF contains positioning information for vector objects (like blocks of text) which is stripped out when converted to text only. Scott Dunedin, FL
From: N_Cook on 13 May 2010 10:26 Scott <nospam(a)vool.con> wrote in message news:4bebff87$0$5008$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message > news:hsga2c$hmk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message > > news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... > >> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message > >> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf > >> to > >> text that can be applied. > > > > > Not that it will help, but the (non)order is likely the order in which is > was composed, using individual blocks of text. And it reflects the order of > those layers within the PDF. The PDF contains positioning information for > vector objects (like blocks of text) which is stripped out when converted to > text only. > Scott > Dunedin, FL > > It shows its probably a hiding to nothing. The same presumably applies to highlighting just a single block of "vertical " text. It will not copy across unscrambled. Both Foxit and Acrobat mangle that pdf-text to text conversion, maybe somewhere there is a pdf reader +highlighting/ pdf to txt app ,that does not mangle. The pinouts 1 to 24 and 41 to 64 in the above table of 1 to 80 listing, I had to descramble manually
From: IanM on 14 May 2010 04:53 N_Cook wrote: > Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message > news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... >> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf to >> text that can be applied. >> Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was > looking >> for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference. >> From the example I had in front of me >> Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish >> 112 pins in total >> >> I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish , >> presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one >> (part >> only) >> http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv >> >> _________________ >> >> Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf > file >> from that link. >> The IC pinouts are quite readable. >> >> Colin @ CATronics >> >> >> >> > > Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had to > grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance > > Bugmenot usually has a couple of active Scribd IDs ....... I *WONT* run Flash here, but I can assure you PDFs can be downloaded from Scribd (if you have a valid ID & password) without it. Obviously the preview doesn't work! ;-) -- Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED) ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk [at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & >32K emails --> NUL:
From: vjp2.at on 29 May 2010 00:19
If the text is stored as ASCII you can use any text editor like emacs to find the relevant text. I used to do this with WORD files in UNIX as well until they started using RAM techniques, splattering the text all over the place. THere is also a program on UNIX called antiword. And there is a UNIX filtering technique which I forgot where you remove any binary longer than two characters. - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos] |