From: N_Cook on
Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf to
> text that can be applied.
> Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was
looking
> for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference.
> From the example I had in front of me
> Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish
> 112 pins in total
>
> I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish ,
> presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one
> (part
> only)
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv
>
> _________________
>
> Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf
file
> from that link.
> The IC pinouts are quite readable.
>
> Colin @ CATronics
>
>
>
>

Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had to
grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance

Just in case anyone has cottoned on to the intention of the thread. The
following is for an 80 pin device originally on good pdf graphic as
24/16/24/16 pins. Starting pin 1 lower left corner and anticlockwise.
Horizontal pinning with text vertical and Gnd text white in black block and
Vcc in grey blocks. This is as a straight listing
1 DISCON#
2 VCC
3 GND
4 CLK24
5 GND
6 GND
7 A0
8 A1
9 A2
10 A3
11 A4
12 A5
13 GND
14 GND
15 A6
16 A7
17 GND
18 AGND
19 XIN
20 XOUT
21 AVCC
22 VCC
23 GND
24 EA
25 RESET
26 A8
27 A9
28 A10
29 A11
30 PC0/RxD0
31 PC1/TxD0
32 PC2/INT0#
33 PC3/INT1#
34 A12
35 A13
36 A14
37 A15
38 PC4/T0
39 PC5/T1
40 PC6/WR#
41 PB7/T2out
42 VCC
43 GND
44 PB0/T2
45 PB1/T2EX
46 PB2/RxD1
47 PB3/TxD1
48 D0
49 D1
50 D2
51 D3
52 PB4/INT4
53 PB5/INT5#
54 PB6/INT6
55 PC7/RD#
56 GND
57 D4
58 D5
59 D6
60 D7
61 BKPT
62 VCC
63 GND
64 SDA
65 SCL
66 WAKEUP#
67 NC
68 PA0/T0out
69 PA1/T1out
70 PA2/OE#
71 PA3/CS#
72 GND
73 PA4/FWR#
74 PA5/FRD#
75 PA6/RXD0out
76 PA7/RXD1out
77 USBD-
78 GND
79 USBD+
80 PSEN#


and this the mangled version via Foxit text capture

80 PQFP
14x20mm
label in middle

SDA BKPT PB2/RxD1 PB1/T2EX PC7/RD#
GND VCC D7 D6 D5 D4 GND PB7/T2out PB6/INT6 PB5/INT5# PB4/INT4 D3 D2 D1 D0
PB3/TxD1 PB0/T2 GND VCC
60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 4164 63 62 61
47
PC6/WR#SCL
4065
PC5/T1WAKEUP#
66
39
PC4/T0
NC
3867
PA0/T0out
A15
3768
PA1/T1out
A14
3669
PA2/OE#
A13
3570
PA3/CS#
A12
3471
80 PQFP
GND
PC3/INT1#
3372
PA4/FWR#
PC2/INT0#
3273
14x20mm
PA5/FRD#
PC1/TxD0
3174
PA6/RXD0out
PC0/RxD0
3075
PA7/RXD1out
A11
2976
A10
USBD-
2877
GND
A9
2778
USBD+
A8
2679
PSEN#
RESET
2580
123456789 11 15 23
10 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 24
18
T
A6 A7A0 A1 A2 A3 A4 A5
EA
XIN
VCCVCC
GND GND GNDGND GND GND GND
AVCC
XOU
AGND
CLK24
DISCON#

I could not find a correlation between the mangled order and word length or
word start or end position


From: Scott on

"N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hsga2c$hmk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf
>> to
>> text that can be applied.
>> Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was
> looking
>> for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference.
>> From the example I had in front of me
>> Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish
>> 112 pins in total
>>
>> I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish ,
>> presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one
>> (part
>> only)
>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv
>>
>> _________________
>>
>> Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf
> file
>> from that link.
>> The IC pinouts are quite readable.
>>
>> Colin @ CATronics
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had
> to
> grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance
>
> Just in case anyone has cottoned on to the intention of the thread. The
> following is for an 80 pin device originally on good pdf graphic as
> 24/16/24/16 pins. Starting pin 1 lower left corner and anticlockwise.
> Horizontal pinning with text vertical and Gnd text white in black block
> and
> Vcc in grey blocks. This is as a straight listing
> 1 DISCON#
> 2 VCC
> 3 GND
> 4 CLK24
> 5 GND
> 6 GND
> 7 A0
> 8 A1
> 9 A2
> 10 A3
> 11 A4
> 12 A5
> 13 GND
> 14 GND
> 15 A6
> 16 A7
> 17 GND
> 18 AGND
> 19 XIN
> 20 XOUT
> 21 AVCC
> 22 VCC
> 23 GND
> 24 EA
> 25 RESET
> 26 A8
> 27 A9
> 28 A10
> 29 A11
> 30 PC0/RxD0
> 31 PC1/TxD0
> 32 PC2/INT0#
> 33 PC3/INT1#
> 34 A12
> 35 A13
> 36 A14
> 37 A15
> 38 PC4/T0
> 39 PC5/T1
> 40 PC6/WR#
> 41 PB7/T2out
> 42 VCC
> 43 GND
> 44 PB0/T2
> 45 PB1/T2EX
> 46 PB2/RxD1
> 47 PB3/TxD1
> 48 D0
> 49 D1
> 50 D2
> 51 D3
> 52 PB4/INT4
> 53 PB5/INT5#
> 54 PB6/INT6
> 55 PC7/RD#
> 56 GND
> 57 D4
> 58 D5
> 59 D6
> 60 D7
> 61 BKPT
> 62 VCC
> 63 GND
> 64 SDA
> 65 SCL
> 66 WAKEUP#
> 67 NC
> 68 PA0/T0out
> 69 PA1/T1out
> 70 PA2/OE#
> 71 PA3/CS#
> 72 GND
> 73 PA4/FWR#
> 74 PA5/FRD#
> 75 PA6/RXD0out
> 76 PA7/RXD1out
> 77 USBD-
> 78 GND
> 79 USBD+
> 80 PSEN#
>
>
> and this the mangled version via Foxit text capture
>
> 80 PQFP
> 14x20mm
> label in middle
>
> SDA BKPT PB2/RxD1 PB1/T2EX PC7/RD#
> GND VCC D7 D6 D5 D4 GND PB7/T2out PB6/INT6 PB5/INT5# PB4/INT4 D3 D2 D1 D0
> PB3/TxD1 PB0/T2 GND VCC
> 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 4164 63 62 61
> 47
> PC6/WR#SCL
> 4065
> PC5/T1WAKEUP#
> 66
> 39
> PC4/T0
> NC
> 3867
> PA0/T0out
> A15
> 3768
> PA1/T1out
> A14
> 3669
> PA2/OE#
> A13
> 3570
> PA3/CS#
> A12
> 3471
> 80 PQFP
> GND
> PC3/INT1#
> 3372
> PA4/FWR#
> PC2/INT0#
> 3273
> 14x20mm
> PA5/FRD#
> PC1/TxD0
> 3174
> PA6/RXD0out
> PC0/RxD0
> 3075
> PA7/RXD1out
> A11
> 2976
> A10
> USBD-
> 2877
> GND
> A9
> 2778
> USBD+
> A8
> 2679
> PSEN#
> RESET
> 2580
> 123456789 11 15 23
> 10 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 24
> 18
> T
> A6 A7A0 A1 A2 A3 A4 A5
> EA
> XIN
> VCCVCC
> GND GND GNDGND GND GND GND
> AVCC
> XOU
> AGND
> CLK24
> DISCON#
>
> I could not find a correlation between the mangled order and word length
> or
> word start or end position
>
>
Not that it will help, but the (non)order is likely the order in which is
was composed, using individual blocks of text. And it reflects the order of
those layers within the PDF. The PDF contains positioning information for
vector objects (like blocks of text) which is stripped out when converted to
text only.
Scott
Dunedin, FL


From: N_Cook on
Scott <nospam(a)vool.con> wrote in message
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>
> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hsga2c$hmk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> > Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
> >> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf
> >> to
> >> text that can be applied.



> >
> >
> Not that it will help, but the (non)order is likely the order in which is
> was composed, using individual blocks of text. And it reflects the order
of
> those layers within the PDF. The PDF contains positioning information for
> vector objects (like blocks of text) which is stripped out when converted
to
> text only.
> Scott
> Dunedin, FL
>
>

It shows its probably a hiding to nothing. The same presumably applies to
highlighting just a single block of "vertical " text. It will not copy
across unscrambled. Both Foxit and Acrobat mangle that pdf-text to text
conversion, maybe somewhere there is a pdf reader +highlighting/ pdf to txt
app ,that does not mangle.

The pinouts 1 to 24 and 41 to 64 in the above table of 1 to 80 listing, I
had to descramble manually


From: IanM on
N_Cook wrote:
> Colin Horsley <horsley-spam(a)westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:tZKdnfwXkq4o1nbWnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> "N_Cook" <diverse(a)tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hsedss$521$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Just for future reference , is there a general principle concerning pdf to
>> text that can be applied.
>> Not relevant now as got the thing repaired but in the process I was
> looking
>> for the pinout of Sony CXD 3058AR and only found this reference.
>> From the example I had in front of me
>> Vss was pins 17,31,37,46,78,79 , easy to establish
>> 112 pins in total
>>
>> I'm assuming a pinout of the IC appeared buried in this gibberish ,
>> presumably something else mixed in there as was horizontal to the CXD one
>> (part
>> only)
>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/18318751/Sony-Hcdne3compact-Disc-Deck-Receiv
>>
>> _________________
>>
>> Why do you need to convert it? You can download and read the whole pdf
> file
>> from that link.
>> The IC pinouts are quite readable.
>>
>> Colin @ CATronics
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not available to me without registering for more unsolicted junk , I had to
> grab the Google-cached version. I tried proxies etc but no admittance
>
>
Bugmenot usually has a couple of active Scribd IDs .......

I *WONT* run Flash here, but I can assure you PDFs can be downloaded
from Scribd (if you have a valid ID & password) without it. Obviously
the preview doesn't work! ;-)



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From: vjp2.at on
If the text is stored as ASCII you can use any text editor like emacs
to find the relevant text. I used to do this with WORD files in UNIX
as well until they started using RAM techniques, splattering the text
all over the place. THere is also a program on UNIX called antiword.
And there is a UNIX filtering technique which I forgot where you
remove any binary longer than two characters.


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