From: Lin Ming on 31 May 2010 22:40 > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz(a)infradead.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 16:12 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > > How deep in the device tree are you really going to be > > > caring about? It sounds like the large majority of > > > events are only going to be coming from the "system" > > > type objects (cpu, nodes, memory, etc.) and very few > > > would be from things that we consider a 'struct > > > device' today (like a pci, usb, scsi, or input, etc.) > > > > The general noise I hear from the hardware people is > > that we'll see more and more device-level stuff - bus > > bridges/controller and actual devices (GPUs, NICs etc.) > > will be wanting to export performance metrics. > > There's (much) more: > > - laptops want to provide power level/usage metrics, > > - we could express a lot of special, lower level > (transport specific) disk IO stats via events as well - > without having to push those stats to a higher level > (where it might not make sense). Currently such kinds > of stats/metrics are very device/subsystem specific > way, if they are provided at all. > > Also, we already have quite a few per device tracepoints > upstream. Here are a few examples: > > - GPU tracepoints (trace_i915_gem_request_submit(), etc.) > - WIFI tracepoints (trace_iwlwifi_dev_ioread32(), etc.) > - block tracepoints (trace_block_bio_complete()) > > So these would be attached to: > > # GEM events of drm/card0: > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/events/i915_gem_request_submit/ > > # Wifi-ioread events of wlan0: > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ioread32/ > > # whole sdb disk events: > /sys/block/sdb/events/block_bio_complete/ > > # sdb1 partition events: > /sys/block/sdb/sdb1/events/block_bio_complete/ > The difficulty is how to know where each event should be attached to. struct ftrace_event_call *call; for_each_event(call, __start_ftrace_events, __stop_ftrace_events) { /* where will this event be attached to? */ } Any idea? Thanks, Lin Ming -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Ingo Molnar on 8 Jun 2010 14:50 * Lin Ming <ming.m.lin(a)intel.com> wrote: > > > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz(a)infradead.org> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 16:12 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > How deep in the device tree are you really going to be > > > > caring about? It sounds like the large majority of > > > > events are only going to be coming from the "system" > > > > type objects (cpu, nodes, memory, etc.) and very few > > > > would be from things that we consider a 'struct > > > > device' today (like a pci, usb, scsi, or input, etc.) > > > > > > The general noise I hear from the hardware people is > > > that we'll see more and more device-level stuff - bus > > > bridges/controller and actual devices (GPUs, NICs etc.) > > > will be wanting to export performance metrics. > > > > There's (much) more: > > > > - laptops want to provide power level/usage metrics, > > > > - we could express a lot of special, lower level > > (transport specific) disk IO stats via events as well - > > without having to push those stats to a higher level > > (where it might not make sense). Currently such kinds > > of stats/metrics are very device/subsystem specific > > way, if they are provided at all. > > > > Also, we already have quite a few per device tracepoints > > upstream. Here are a few examples: > > > > - GPU tracepoints (trace_i915_gem_request_submit(), etc.) > > - WIFI tracepoints (trace_iwlwifi_dev_ioread32(), etc.) > > - block tracepoints (trace_block_bio_complete()) > > > > So these would be attached to: > > > > # GEM events of drm/card0: > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/events/i915_gem_request_submit/ > > > > # Wifi-ioread events of wlan0: > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ioread32/ > > > > # whole sdb disk events: > > /sys/block/sdb/events/block_bio_complete/ > > > > # sdb1 partition events: > > /sys/block/sdb/sdb1/events/block_bio_complete/ > > > > The difficulty is how to know where each event should be attached to. > > struct ftrace_event_call *call; > > for_each_event(call, __start_ftrace_events, __stop_ftrace_events) { > /* where will this event be attached to? */ > } > > Any idea? Well, it cannot be automatic - for each subsystem it's a different sysfs point. So it has to be specified in the TRACE_EVENT() definition or so. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Lin Ming on 21 Jun 2010 05:00 > From: Ingo Molnar <mingo(a)elte.hu> > > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz(a)infradead.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 16:12 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > > How deep in the device tree are you really going to be > > > caring about? It sounds like the large majority of > > > events are only going to be coming from the "system" > > > type objects (cpu, nodes, memory, etc.) and very few > > > would be from things that we consider a 'struct > > > device' today (like a pci, usb, scsi, or input, etc.) > > > > The general noise I hear from the hardware people is > > that we'll see more and more device-level stuff - bus > > bridges/controller and actual devices (GPUs, NICs etc.) > > will be wanting to export performance metrics. > > There's (much) more: > > - laptops want to provide power level/usage metrics, > > - we could express a lot of special, lower level > (transport specific) disk IO stats via events as well - > without having to push those stats to a higher level > (where it might not make sense). Currently such kinds > of stats/metrics are very device/subsystem specific > way, if they are provided at all. > > Also, we already have quite a few per device tracepoints > upstream. Here are a few examples: > > - GPU tracepoints (trace_i915_gem_request_submit(), etc.) > - WIFI tracepoints (trace_iwlwifi_dev_ioread32(), etc.) > - block tracepoints (trace_block_bio_complete()) > > So these would be attached to: > > # GEM events of drm/card0: > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/events/i915_gem_request_submit/ > > # Wifi-ioread events of wlan0: > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ioread32/ > > # whole sdb disk events: > /sys/block/sdb/events/block_bio_complete/ > > # sdb1 partition events: > /sys/block/sdb/sdb1/events/block_bio_complete/ > > And we also have 'software nodes' in /sys that have events > upstream here and today. For example for SLAB we already > have kmalloc/kfree tracepoints (trace_kmalloc() and > trace_kfree()): > > # all kmalloc events: > /sys/kernel/slab/events/ > > # kmalloc events for sighand_cache: > /sys/kernel/slab/sighand_cache/events/kmalloc/ > > # kfree events for sighand_cache: > /sys/kernel/slab/sighand_cache/events/kfree/ > > In general the set of events we have upstream is growing > along an exponential curve (there's over a hundred now, > via tracepoints). > > They are either logically attached to the hardware > topology of the system (as in the first set of examples > above), or ae attached to the software/subsystem object > topology of the kernel (some examples of which are > described in the second set of examples above). > > Sometimes there are aliasing/filtering relationship > between events, which is expressed very well via the > hierarchy and granularity of /sysfs. > > New events would go into that topology there in a natural > way. > > For example general hugepage tracepoints (should we > introduce any) would go into the existing hugepage node: > > /sys/kernel/mm/hugepages/events/... > > All in one, all these existing and future events, both of > hardware and software type, are literally begging to be > attached to nodes in /sys :-) (sorry for late response...) There are so many events via tracepoints, how about below sysfs point for each events? 1. kvm events /sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events/kvm_set_irq/ .... /sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events/kvm_emulate_insn/ 2. kvm_mmu events /sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events/kvm_mmu_pagetable_walk/ .... /sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events/kvm_mmu_zap_page/ 3. raw_syscalls events /sys/kernel/events/sys_enter/ /sys/kernel/events/sys_exit/ 4. mce events /sys/devices/system/machinecheck/machinecheck0/mce_record/ .... /sys/devices/system/machinecheck/machinecheckN/mce_record/ 5. sched events /sys/kernel/events/sched_kthread_stop/ .... /sys/kernel/events/sched_stat_runtime/ 6. irq events /sys/kernel/events/irq_handler_entry/ .... /sys/kernel/events/softirq_exit/ 7. timer events /sys/kernel/events/timer_init/ .... /sys/kernel/events/itimer_expire/ 8. signal events /sys/kernel/events/signal_generate/ .... /sys/kernel/events/signal_lose_info/ 9. workqueue events /sys/kernel/events/workqueue_insertion/ .... /sys/kernel/events/workqueue_destruction/ 10. lock events /sys/kernel/events/lock_acquire/ .... /sys/kernel/events/lock_acquired/ 11. module events /sys/module/events/module_load/ .... /sys/module/events/module_request/ 12. power events /sys/power/events/power_start/ .... /sys/power/events/power_end/ 13. kmem events /sys/kernel/mm/events/kmalloc/ .... /sys/kernel/mm/events/mm_page_alloc_extfrag/ 14. ext4 events /sys/fs/events/ext4_free_inode/ .... /sys/fs/events/ext4_mb_buddy_bitmap_load/ 15. jbd2 events /sys/fs/events/jbd2_checkpoint/ .... /sys/fs/events/jbd2_cleanup_journal_tail/ 16. xfs events /sys/fs/events/xfs_attr_list_sf/ .... /sys/fs/events/xfs_log_recover_inode_skip/ 17. gfs2 events /sys/fs/events/gfs2_glock_state_change/ .... /sys/fs/events/gfs2_block_alloc/ 18. block events /sys/block/sda/events/block_rq_abort/ .... /sys/block/sdb/events/block_rq_remap/ 19. bkl events /sys/kernel/events/lock_kernel/ .... /sys/kernel/events/unlock_kernel/ 20. scsi events /sys/bus/scsi/devices/0:0:0:0/events/scsi_dispatch_cmd_start/ .... /sys/bus/scsi/devices/0:0:0:0/events/scsi_eh_wakeup/ 21. iwlwifi_io events /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ioread32/ .... /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ucode_event/ 22. iwm events <where should iwm events be in sysfs?> 23. skb events /sys/class/net/events/kfree_skb/ /sys/class/net/events/skb_copy_datagram_iovec/ 24. napi events /sys/class/net/events/napi/ 25. mac80211 events /sys/class/net/events/drv_start/ .... /sys/class/net/events/stop_queue -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Lin Ming on 22 Jun 2010 03:30 On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 14:59 +0800, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 14:25 +0800, Lin Ming wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 17:34 +0800, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 16:55 +0800, Lin Ming wrote: > > > > > > > 21. iwlwifi_io events > > > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ioread32/ > > > > ... > > > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0/events/iwlwifi_dev_ucode_event/ > > > > > > > > > That doesn't work, you could have multiple PCI devices in your system. > > > > Understood. This is just a "demo". > > > > Actually, I mean > > > > net/wlan0/events/ > > net/waln1/events/ > > .... > > net/walnN/events/ > > That's not appropriate either though since you may have multiple network > interfaces on the same hardware :) Doesn't net/wlan0...wlanN mean multiple network interfaces on the same hardware? If my understanding is wrong, would you show me an example in sysfs? > > > > > 23. skb events > > > > /sys/class/net/events/kfree_skb/ > > > > /sys/class/net/events/skb_copy_datagram_iovec/ > > > > > > > 25. mac80211 events > > > > /sys/class/net/events/drv_start/ > > > > ... > > > > /sys/class/net/events/stop_queue > > > > > > It doesn't really seem right to mix all these. > > > > Well, agree, skb events are totally different with mac80211 events. > > Any idea? > > I suppose the most appropriate thing would > be /sys/class/ieee80211/phyN/events/... for almost all of them. Good idea. Thanks, Lin Ming > > johannes > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Johannes Berg on 22 Jun 2010 03:40 On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 15:22 +0800, Lin Ming wrote: > > > net/wlan0/events/ > > > net/waln1/events/ > > > .... > > > net/walnN/events/ > > > > That's not appropriate either though since you may have multiple network > > interfaces on the same hardware :) > > Doesn't net/wlan0...wlanN mean multiple network interfaces on the same > hardware? Yes, but the trace points aren't per network interface but rather per hardware piece. johannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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