From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 21-05-2010 19:54, Arne Vajh�j wrote:
> On 21-05-2010 16:28, Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rhino wrote:
>>> First, I hope we can all agree that, in an ideal world, every class
>>> which can produce text output - even if no text is produced per se,
>>> most classed would be capable of producing error messages for
>>> Exceptions - should be written so that it can produce that output in
>>> the languages of the users of those classes.
>>
>> I strongly disagree. Text for the consumption of end-users should be
>> localised; text for the consumption of programmers and sysops should not
>> be. I think the advantages of having a common language for these things
>> outweight the disadvantages of most people not having them in their
>> first language. It's like air traffic control - it's vital for clear
>> communication that i can say "i'm getting the NoMoreJam error", and not
>> draw a complete blank with French acquaintances who've only ever seen
>> NYAPlusDeConfiture and Americans familiar with NoMoreJelly. Having a
>> single language makes googling with error messages and so on a lot more
>> productive, too - and that's a benefit to the speakers of minor
>> languages, who have access to squillions of English search results.
>
> I would expect developers, testers and operators to understand
> English too, but unfortunately it is not uncommon for customers
> to require internationalization for operations. In Europe
> both Germany and France often require that.

Which can be a bit problematic when having a global team
that needs to fix bugs related to a GUI in German or
French.

Arne
From: Lew on
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> And my guess is that Tom [sic] meant US English.

Tom Anderson wrote:
> Certainly not! en_GB is the canonical form, and en_US is merely a
> popular but subordinate deviation.

It has ever amazed me how well the Brits speak English. Awesome!

--
Lew
From: Mike Schilling on
Lew wrote:
> Arne Vajh�j wrote:
>>> And my guess is that Tom [sic] meant US English.
>
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> Certainly not! en_GB is the canonical form, and en_US is merely a
>> popular but subordinate deviation.
>
> It has ever amazed me how well the Brits speak English. Awesome!

Some of them even write it well, though rarely as well as the Irish.


From: Tom Anderson on
On Sat, 22 May 2010, Mike Schilling wrote:

> Lew wrote:
>> Arne Vajh?j wrote:
>>>> And my guess is that Tom [sic] meant US English.
>>
>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>> Certainly not! en_GB is the canonical form, and en_US is merely a
>>> popular but subordinate deviation.
>>
>> It has ever amazed me how well the Brits speak English. Awesome!
>
> Some of them even write it well, though rarely as well as the Irish.

And of course, it's the Scandinavians who are the real masters of it.

tom

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From: Mike Schilling on
Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2010, Mike Schilling wrote:
>
>> Lew wrote:
>>> Arne Vajh?j wrote:
>>>>> And my guess is that Tom [sic] meant US English.
>>>
>>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>> Certainly not! en_GB is the canonical form, and en_US is merely a
>>>> popular but subordinate deviation.
>>>
>>> It has ever amazed me how well the Brits speak English. Awesome!
>>
>> Some of them even write it well, though rarely as well as the Irish.
>
> And of course, it's the Scandinavians who are the real masters of it.


I was thinking of Shaw, Wilde, Joyce, Synge, and Yeats.