From: Darklight on
ACE wrote:

> Inge Svensson wrote:
>
>> 2010-01-22 13:43, ACE skrev:
>>> Inge Svensson wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2010-01-22 12:23, ACE skrev:
>>>>> Have just installed a bright shiny new 11.2, KDE4/Dolphin. I am
>>> stumped
>>>>> regarding access to drives. When I insert a disk into the optical
>>>>> drive, I get notification that the disk has been loaded and
>>> immediately
>>>>> KB3 is started. Can't find a way to access the data disk itself
>>> through a
>>>>> file manager. Doesn't seem like Dolphin will go there. I know I'm
>>>>> missing something here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any words of wisdom?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gee, I hope its nothing obvious
>>>> What happens if you click on the little monitor symbol with an USB
>>>> symbol in it (in the panel) and the click on the optical disc. If
> you
>>>> put the mouse over the disc how many alternatives does it say it
> has?
>>>> Inge Svensson
>>>
>>> It immediately sends me to KB3. No alternatives. I am searching
> for a
>>> way to change that. Where's a wrench when you need it? :)
>>>
>> system settings ->advanced ->and then the icon that looks the same as
>> automatic start (can't translate it) ?
>
> I feel a little foolish when I write this, but I don't seem to have a
> system settings on my GUI. Have Yast, which gives me a limited amount
> of manipulation, but I don't think you mean that. I've checked the
> applications folders again, but I don't see it.
>
> open start menu and click on run command and type system and it will give
you a selction to choose from

From: ACE on
Darklight wrote:

> ACE wrote:
>
>> Inge Svensson wrote:
>>
>>> 2010-01-22 13:43, ACE skrev:
>>>> Inge Svensson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2010-01-22 12:23, ACE skrev:
>>>>>> Have just installed a bright shiny new 11.2, KDE4/Dolphin. I am
>>>> stumped
>>>>>> regarding access to drives. When I insert a disk into the optical
>>>>>> drive, I get notification that the disk has been loaded and
>>>> immediately
>>>>>> KB3 is started. Can't find a way to access the data disk itself
>>>> through a
>>>>>> file manager. Doesn't seem like Dolphin will go there. I know I'm
>>>>>> missing something here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any words of wisdom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee, I hope its nothing obvious
>>>>> What happens if you click on the little monitor symbol with an USB
>>>>> symbol in it (in the panel) and the click on the optical disc. If
>> you
>>>>> put the mouse over the disc how many alternatives does it say it
>> has?
>>>>> Inge Svensson
>>>>
>>>> It immediately sends me to KB3. No alternatives. I am searching
>> for a
>>>> way to change that. Where's a wrench when you need it? :)
>>>>
>>> system settings ->advanced ->and then the icon that looks the same as
>>> automatic start (can't translate it) ?
>>
>> I feel a little foolish when I write this, but I don't seem to have a
>> system settings on my GUI. Have Yast, which gives me a limited amount
>> of manipulation, but I don't think you mean that. I've checked the
>> applications folders again, but I don't see it.
>>
>> open start menu and click on run command and type system and it will give
> you a selction to choose from

That doesn't lead me anywhere useful, but I ran device actions resulting in
a list of actions taken. First on the list is run file manager. I tried to
edit it, but was presented with an error -- device conditions are not valid
-- can't delete the damn thing either.


--
ACE
From: script||die on
On 01/22/2010 06:23 AM, ACE wrote:
> Have just installed a bright shiny new 11.2, KDE4/Dolphin. I am stumped
> regarding access to drives. When I insert a disk into the optical
> drive, I get notification that the disk has been loaded and immediately
> KB3 is started. Can't find a way to access the data disk itself through a
> file manager. Doesn't seem like Dolphin will go there. I know I'm
> missing something here.
>
> Any words of wisdom?

Well this may not be wisdom but I think you can mount the same device
under several mountpoints. If access to data on it is all you want, and
/dev/sr0 is the device name

su (pwd)
fdisk -l (try to recon the device, I use sr0 in this example)
mkdir /temp4odd
mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /temp4odd

then see under the /temp4odd mountpoint in a file-manager.




From: David Bolt on
On Saturday 23 Jan 2010 22:20, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
script||die painted this mural:

> On 01/22/2010 06:23 AM, ACE wrote:
>> Have just installed a bright shiny new 11.2, KDE4/Dolphin. I am stumped
>> regarding access to drives. When I insert a disk into the optical
>> drive, I get notification that the disk has been loaded and immediately
>> KB3 is started. Can't find a way to access the data disk itself through a
>> file manager. Doesn't seem like Dolphin will go there. I know I'm
>> missing something here.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom?
>
> Well this may not be wisdom but I think you can mount the same device
> under several mountpoints. If access to data on it is all you want, and
> /dev/sr0 is the device name

If you have a single optical drive, the device should be accessible
through the links /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom.

> su (pwd)
> fdisk -l (try to recon the device, I use sr0 in this example)
> mkdir /temp4odd

No need to do that. There's already a directory provided for the
purpose of temporarily mounting file systems, namely /mnt . From the
latest Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, accessible at:

http://proton.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MNTMOUNTPOINTFORATEMPORARILYMOUNT

There's this:

/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem

Purpose

This directory is provided so that the system administrator may
temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory
is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program
is run.

This directory must not be used by installation programs: a suitable
temporary directory not in use by the system must be used instead.

> mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /temp4odd

Or, depending on the type of disc, one of these:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/dvd /mnt -o ro
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt -o ro

The -o ro is used to mount the device read-only. For an optical disc,
this suppresses the warning that the disc has been mounted read-only.

> then see under the /temp4odd mountpoint in a file-manager.

Or /mnt , if using that as the mount point.

Also, just in case you're wanting to mount a CD or DVD image, virtually
the same command as above it used:

mount -t iso9660 /path/to/disc/image /mnt -o ro,loop

In this case, you need to specify the option to use a loopback device,
which you must remember to free up when you umount the images by using:

umount -d /mnt


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: script||die on
On 01/24/2010 08:05 AM, David Bolt wrote:
> On Saturday 23 Jan 2010 22:20, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
> script||die painted this mural:
>
>> On 01/22/2010 06:23 AM, ACE wrote:
>>> Have just installed a bright shiny new 11.2, KDE4/Dolphin. I am stumped
>>> regarding access to drives. When I insert a disk into the optical
>>> drive, I get notification that the disk has been loaded and immediately
>>> KB3 is started. Can't find a way to access the data disk itself through a
>>> file manager. Doesn't seem like Dolphin will go there. I know I'm
>>> missing something here.
>>>
>>> Any words of wisdom?
>>
>> Well this may not be wisdom but I think you can mount the same device
>> under several mountpoints. If access to data on it is all you want, and
>> /dev/sr0 is the device name
>
> If you have a single optical drive, the device should be accessible
> through the links /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom.
>
>> su (pwd)
>> fdisk -l (try to recon the device, I use sr0 in this example)
>> mkdir /temp4odd
>
> No need to do that. There's already a directory provided for the
> purpose of temporarily mounting file systems, namely /mnt . From the
> latest Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, accessible at:
>
> http://proton.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MNTMOUNTPOINTFORATEMPORARILYMOUNT
>
> There's this:
>
> /mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem
>
> Purpose
>
> This directory is provided so that the system administrator may
> temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory
> is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program
> is run.
>
> This directory must not be used by installation programs: a suitable
> temporary directory not in use by the system must be used instead.
>
>> mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /temp4odd
>
> Or, depending on the type of disc, one of these:
>
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/dvd /mnt -o ro
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt -o ro
>
> The -o ro is used to mount the device read-only. For an optical disc,
> this suppresses the warning that the disc has been mounted read-only.
>
>> then see under the /temp4odd mountpoint in a file-manager.
>
> Or /mnt , if using that as the mount point.
>
> Also, just in case you're wanting to mount a CD or DVD image, virtually
> the same command as above it used:
>
> mount -t iso9660 /path/to/disc/image /mnt -o ro,loop
>
> In this case, you need to specify the option to use a loopback device,
> which you must remember to free up when you umount the images by using:
>
> umount -d /mnt

I decided a long time ago that it was best to prevent the system and
myself from stepping on each other by using my own custom paths for many
"my" things. It all started with grub when I decided to put all my menu
files under /boot/user instead. Now the system can do what it likes my
menu is unaffected and I can rewrite boot code with one line if anything
goes TU. Then I decided to copy the entire /boot folder to every
partition so I don't even have to try to remember where it all is.
Generally I use the first shared vfat data partition though.

So that led to a /0 folder where I place ready mountpoints for every
imaginable mountable. The kit is enough to service 4 PATA + 4 SATA
drives all cut into 15 pattitions. I only keep the ones I need so as not
to clutter up the folder. This way the system can mount (I HATE AUTO
ANYTHING) what it likes, it'll never do it on my turf. I could have done
all this with subfolders under /mnt I suppose but /0 always sorts to the
top in the file manager. I hang little script containing folders on the
panel so if I want to mount whatever I just select it from the droplist
and it instantly mounts under a predefined dedicated point. Very happy
with the setup, been doing it for years, it's migratable to any system.

I've taken it one step further now and every user gets a ~/0 folder too
whether the need it or not :-) Most seem to love the idea. It's good
for the OS too, it doesn't get pissed on so much.



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