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From: Alistair on 28 Feb 2006 09:40 Pete Dashwood wrote: > <ozzy.kopec(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1141046648.949404.165450(a)v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > Pete Dashwood wrote: > > I can think of at least two separate sites (and a number of occasions on > both of them) where we were very glad to have source recreated from listings > after decks of cards got shredded or minced in various readers or were > destroyed by water after a storm where part of the roof was removed... > > Maybe your bud's Boss was an oldtimer like me :-) > > Pete. > I worked in a place where an operator dropped a whole tray of punched jcl cards (and successfully mixed them quicker than a poker dealer could have done). No wonder we moved from ICCF to VM/CMS sharpish.
From: Oliver Wong on 28 Feb 2006 09:46 "Alistair" <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:1141137034.249009.40630(a)p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Are these help files an integral part of the system or are they > something that you have to buy-in as an add-on? I only ask coz I'm > ignorant in OO. > I'd feel ripped off if I payed for an OO component, took it for a spin, and then found out that I had to pay extra for the documentation. In the case of Java, Sun gives the code library away for free, and gives the documentation away for free as well (it's accessible at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/) JFreeChart is a library for drawing charts and graphs. The library itself is free (with source code included), but you have to pay for the documentation. You can pour through the source code and try to figure out how to use the components yourself, which is the approach I've been using for my projects which used JFreeChart. Any business model is possible, of course, and I don't mind if you have to pay for the component and the documentation seperately, as long as that is made clear from the start. What I was complaining about earlier is paying for the component, and then mistakenly thinking you've got everything included. - Oliver
From: on 28 Feb 2006 09:48 In article <1141137619.797762.312570(a)u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >Pete Dashwood wrote: >> <ozzy.kopec(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1141046648.949404.165450(a)v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> > Pete Dashwood wrote: >> >> I can think of at least two separate sites (and a number of occasions on >> both of them) where we were very glad to have source recreated from listings >> after decks of cards got shredded or minced in various readers or were >> destroyed by water after a storm where part of the roof was removed... >> >> Maybe your bud's Boss was an oldtimer like me :-) > >I worked in a place where an operator dropped a whole tray of punched >jcl cards (and successfully mixed them quicker than a poker dealer >could have done). Oh, I *cannot* resist... 000100 AND WITH THESE AND OTHER INSTANCES IN MIND WE SHOULD, THEREFORE, 000200 MAKE SURE THAT ALL CODE IS BACKWARDSLY-COMPATIBLE WITH SUCH 000300 LIMITATIONS... JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WORKED WITH A PUNCHED DECK 000400 IN DECADES IS NO REASON NOT TO 'JUST IN CASE' THINGS, RIGHT? DD
From: Oliver Wong on 28 Feb 2006 10:18 "Alistair" <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:1141137619.797762.312570(a)u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > > I worked in a place where an operator dropped a whole tray of punched > jcl cards (and successfully mixed them quicker than a poker dealer > could have done). No wonder we moved from ICCF to VM/CMS sharpish. A friend of mine was told me a similar story: <quote> My dad was working in the "computing department" of a major Canadian company back when punch cards were still en vogue. He was driving a pick-up truck with a co-worker down a steep hill street in Montreal when, stopped at a light, he was struck from behind by a tow truck. Back in those days nobody wore seatbelts and somehow he broke a leg. Needless to say the punch cards in the back exploded allover the intersection. So my dad, with a broken leg and a secretary helping him, crawled around the intersection tryring to reorder the 5 000 or so punch cards that represented the compny's payroll program for that month. You can imagine what the ambulance driver, who didn't even know what punch cards were, said to him when he arrived. </quote> - Oliver
From: Howard Brazee on 28 Feb 2006 10:26
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:48:50 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: >>I worked in a place where an operator dropped a whole tray of punched >>jcl cards (and successfully mixed them quicker than a poker dealer >>could have done). > >Oh, I *cannot* resist... > >000100 AND WITH THESE AND OTHER INSTANCES IN MIND WE SHOULD, THEREFORE, >000200 MAKE SURE THAT ALL CODE IS BACKWARDSLY-COMPATIBLE WITH SUCH >000300 LIMITATIONS... JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WORKED WITH A PUNCHED DECK >000400 IN DECADES IS NO REASON NOT TO 'JUST IN CASE' THINGS, RIGHT? Belts and suspenders. Put sequence numbers in columns 1-6 and in 73-80 just to be safe. You never know when you might spill your hard drive. |