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From: ahall on 27 Jul 2010 00:04 "lgreenwood(a)srt.com" <lgreenwood(a)srt.com> writes: > On Jul 26, 1:27�pm, <ah...(a)no-spam-panix.com> wrote: > > Christopher Muto <m...(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > > > Christopher Muto wrote: > > > > ah...(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > > > >> It is time to buy my last college PC (youngest kid > > > >> is about to leave). > > > > > >> I read here a while ago that Dell stopped shipping > > > >> real OS disks, but there was at least one exception. > > > >> I do not remember which laptop was the exception. > > > > > >> Anyone know? > > > > > >> Thanks in advance, > > > > > > can't speak for any recent purchases in the home division, but the > > > > vostro and latitude laptops generally come with media... but pay > > > > close attention to the description of the os to be sure that it is > > > > 'with media' as some configurations do not come with media. > > > > > looks like media is no longer an option on even the vostro or inspiron > > > laptops... �the only ones i see with media are some vostro desktops > > > with windows 7 pro or optiplex and vostro desktops that come with the > > > windows xp pro 'downgrade'. � this is dells offical position on the > > > windows media and what they curerntly offer for you to create your own > > > recovery discs. > > >http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19332656... > > > > The only mention of media I found was on configurations with an XP downgrade > > built in. �I assume that means it comes with XP installed, and with a Win 7 > > disk. � > > > > I do not know if I want to mess with that. > > > > Any alternative vendors that sell with a real OS disk? �I think the answer > > is no... > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Andrew Hall > > (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) > > I recently priced out a compact laptop on their website and they had > an option of providing recovery CDs for $19.00...Larry I believe the recovery CDs just have an image of the system, not a full copy of the OS. -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...)
From: ahall on 27 Jul 2010 00:08 Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > > Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > > > >> Christopher Muto wrote: > >>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > >>>> It is time to buy my last college PC (youngest kid > >>>> is about to leave). > >>>> > >>>> I read here a while ago that Dell stopped shipping > >>>> real OS disks, but there was at least one exception. > >>>> I do not remember which laptop was the exception. > >>>> > >>>> Anyone know? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks in advance, > >>>> > >>> can't speak for any recent purchases in the home division, but the > >>> vostro and latitude laptops generally come with media... but pay > >>> close attention to the description of the os to be sure that it is > >>> 'with media' as some configurations do not come with media. > >> looks like media is no longer an option on even the vostro or inspiron > >> laptops... the only ones i see with media are some vostro desktops > >> with windows 7 pro or optiplex and vostro desktops that come with the > >> windows xp pro 'downgrade'. this is dells offical position on the > >> windows media and what they curerntly offer for you to create your own > >> recovery discs. > >> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19332656.aspx > > The only mention of media I found was on configurations with an XP > > downgrade > > built in. I assume that means it comes with XP installed, and with > > a Win 7 disk. I do not know if I want to mess with that. > > Any alternative vendors that sell with a real OS disk? I think the > > answer > > is no... > > Thanks, > > > > no other major vendor has provided a 'real' a windows os disk in years > (other than windows server). dell was the last and they only have it Yes, that was my understanding, but it did not hurt to ask. > on a few systems as mentioned. when ordering the windows xp > 'downgrade' the machine does come pre-installed with xp but they > provide both the xp pro and the 7 pro discs. i find it completely I think I will go this way. I have never installed a Windows OS, but I think I can handle it. Besides, that way I would get a clean system, which is always nice. I am currently leaning towards the Latitude 6410. Do you know if there is a good student discount on Win 7? My son does a fair amount of video and photo editing, and perhaps it would be better to go for a 64 bit system. That does not seem to be an option with the XP Downgrade route. > absurd that dell does not offer an option at time of first boot for > the user to select which os they want installed. it seems > particularly stupid that they don't do this on their pre-built > 'fasttrack' machines as it means they have to actually stock two > prebuilt computers, one with windows 7 pro installed and another with > windows xp installed. seem s like your only option for a 'real' > windows 7 dvd is to buy one separately from the system. Yes the dual boot would seem to make sense... Thanks again, -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...)
From: Pen on 27 Jul 2010 10:11 On 7/27/2010 12:08 AM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > >> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >>> Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: >>> >>>> Christopher Muto wrote: >>>>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >>>>>> It is time to buy my last college PC (youngest kid >>>>>> is about to leave). >>>>>> >>>>>> I read here a while ago that Dell stopped shipping >>>>>> real OS disks, but there was at least one exception. >>>>>> I do not remember which laptop was the exception. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone know? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>> >>>>> can't speak for any recent purchases in the home division, but the >>>>> vostro and latitude laptops generally come with media... but pay >>>>> close attention to the description of the os to be sure that it is >>>>> 'with media' as some configurations do not come with media. >>>> looks like media is no longer an option on even the vostro or inspiron >>>> laptops... the only ones i see with media are some vostro desktops >>>> with windows 7 pro or optiplex and vostro desktops that come with the >>>> windows xp pro 'downgrade'. this is dells offical position on the >>>> windows media and what they curerntly offer for you to create your own >>>> recovery discs. >>>> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19332656.aspx >>> The only mention of media I found was on configurations with an XP >>> downgrade >>> built in. I assume that means it comes with XP installed, and with >>> a Win 7 disk. I do not know if I want to mess with that. >>> Any alternative vendors that sell with a real OS disk? I think the >>> answer >>> is no... >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> no other major vendor has provided a 'real' a windows os disk in years >> (other than windows server). dell was the last and they only have it > > Yes, that was my understanding, but it did not hurt to ask. > >> on a few systems as mentioned. when ordering the windows xp >> 'downgrade' the machine does come pre-installed with xp but they >> provide both the xp pro and the 7 pro discs. i find it completely > > I think I will go this way. I have never installed a Windows OS, > but I think I can handle it. Besides, that way I would get a clean > system, which is always nice. > > I am currently leaning towards the Latitude 6410. > > Do you know if there is a good student discount on Win 7? My son does > a fair amount of video and photo editing, and perhaps it would be better > to go for a 64 bit system. That does not seem to be an option with the > XP Downgrade route. > >> absurd that dell does not offer an option at time of first boot for >> the user to select which os they want installed. it seems >> particularly stupid that they don't do this on their pre-built >> 'fasttrack' machines as it means they have to actually stock two >> prebuilt computers, one with windows 7 pro installed and another with >> windows xp installed. seem s like your only option for a 'real' >> windows 7 dvd is to buy one separately from the system. > > Yes the dual boot would seem to make sense... > > Thanks again, > > A student discount on Win 7 is available for $30. http://www.pcworld.com/article/201709/get_windows_7_professional_for_29_if_youre_a_student.html
From: Christopher Muto on 27 Jul 2010 15:56 Pen wrote: > On 7/27/2010 12:08 AM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >> Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: >> >>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >>>> Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: >>>> >>>>> Christopher Muto wrote: >>>>>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >>>>>>> It is time to buy my last college PC (youngest kid >>>>>>> is about to leave). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I read here a while ago that Dell stopped shipping >>>>>>> real OS disks, but there was at least one exception. >>>>>>> I do not remember which laptop was the exception. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone know? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>> >>>>>> can't speak for any recent purchases in the home division, but the >>>>>> vostro and latitude laptops generally come with media... but pay >>>>>> close attention to the description of the os to be sure that it is >>>>>> 'with media' as some configurations do not come with media. >>>>> looks like media is no longer an option on even the vostro or inspiron >>>>> laptops... the only ones i see with media are some vostro desktops >>>>> with windows 7 pro or optiplex and vostro desktops that come with the >>>>> windows xp pro 'downgrade'. this is dells offical position on the >>>>> windows media and what they curerntly offer for you to create your own >>>>> recovery discs. >>>>> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19332656.aspx >>>> The only mention of media I found was on configurations with an XP >>>> downgrade >>>> built in. I assume that means it comes with XP installed, and with >>>> a Win 7 disk. I do not know if I want to mess with that. >>>> Any alternative vendors that sell with a real OS disk? I think the >>>> answer >>>> is no... >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>> no other major vendor has provided a 'real' a windows os disk in years >>> (other than windows server). dell was the last and they only have it >> Yes, that was my understanding, but it did not hurt to ask. >> >>> on a few systems as mentioned. when ordering the windows xp >>> 'downgrade' the machine does come pre-installed with xp but they >>> provide both the xp pro and the 7 pro discs. i find it completely >> I think I will go this way. I have never installed a Windows OS, >> but I think I can handle it. Besides, that way I would get a clean >> system, which is always nice. >> >> I am currently leaning towards the Latitude 6410. >> >> Do you know if there is a good student discount on Win 7? My son does >> a fair amount of video and photo editing, and perhaps it would be better >> to go for a 64 bit system. That does not seem to be an option with the >> XP Downgrade route. >> >>> absurd that dell does not offer an option at time of first boot for >>> the user to select which os they want installed. it seems >>> particularly stupid that they don't do this on their pre-built >>> 'fasttrack' machines as it means they have to actually stock two >>> prebuilt computers, one with windows 7 pro installed and another with >>> windows xp installed. seem s like your only option for a 'real' >>> windows 7 dvd is to buy one separately from the system. >> Yes the dual boot would seem to make sense... >> >> Thanks again, >> >> > A student discount on Win 7 is available for $30. > http://www.pcworld.com/article/201709/get_windows_7_professional_for_29_if_youre_a_student.html more specifically the $29 student copy of windows 7 pro is found here: http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/windows/buynow/default.aspx note there is an additional fee if you want physical media (a dvd) and it appears you must have a valid email address at a university or college. as for the op other question, thought it would work, i would not recommend any laptop for video editing. lattitude models have relatively small capacity hard disks making it even less appropriate for video editing.
From: ahall on 27 Jul 2010 21:39
Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > Pen wrote: > > On 7/27/2010 12:08 AM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > >> Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > >> > >>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > >>>> Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > >>>> > >>>>> Christopher Muto wrote: > >>>>>> ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > >>>>>>> It is time to buy my last college PC (youngest kid > >>>>>>> is about to leave). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I read here a while ago that Dell stopped shipping > >>>>>>> real OS disks, but there was at least one exception. > >>>>>>> I do not remember which laptop was the exception. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyone know? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> can't speak for any recent purchases in the home division, but the > >>>>>> vostro and latitude laptops generally come with media... but pay > >>>>>> close attention to the description of the os to be sure that it is > >>>>>> 'with media' as some configurations do not come with media. > >>>>> looks like media is no longer an option on even the vostro or inspiron > >>>>> laptops... the only ones i see with media are some vostro desktops > >>>>> with windows 7 pro or optiplex and vostro desktops that come with the > >>>>> windows xp pro 'downgrade'. this is dells offical position on the > >>>>> windows media and what they curerntly offer for you to create your own > >>>>> recovery discs. > >>>>> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19332656.aspx > >>>> The only mention of media I found was on configurations with an XP > >>>> downgrade > >>>> built in. I assume that means it comes with XP installed, and with > >>>> a Win 7 disk. I do not know if I want to mess with that. > >>>> Any alternative vendors that sell with a real OS disk? I think the > >>>> answer > >>>> is no... > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>> no other major vendor has provided a 'real' a windows os disk in years > >>> (other than windows server). dell was the last and they only have it > >> Yes, that was my understanding, but it did not hurt to ask. > >> > >>> on a few systems as mentioned. when ordering the windows xp > >>> 'downgrade' the machine does come pre-installed with xp but they > >>> provide both the xp pro and the 7 pro discs. i find it completely > >> I think I will go this way. I have never installed a Windows OS, > >> but I think I can handle it. Besides, that way I would get a clean > >> system, which is always nice. > >> > >> I am currently leaning towards the Latitude 6410. > >> > >> Do you know if there is a good student discount on Win 7? My son does > >> a fair amount of video and photo editing, and perhaps it would be better > >> to go for a 64 bit system. That does not seem to be an option with the > >> XP Downgrade route. > >> > >>> absurd that dell does not offer an option at time of first boot for > >>> the user to select which os they want installed. it seems > >>> particularly stupid that they don't do this on their pre-built > >>> 'fasttrack' machines as it means they have to actually stock two > >>> prebuilt computers, one with windows 7 pro installed and another with > >>> windows xp installed. seem s like your only option for a 'real' > >>> windows 7 dvd is to buy one separately from the system. > >> Yes the dual boot would seem to make sense... > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> > >> > > A student discount on Win 7 is available for $30. > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/201709/get_windows_7_professional_for_29_if_youre_a_student.html > > more specifically the $29 student copy of windows 7 pro is found here: > http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/windows/buynow/default.aspx > note there is an additional fee if you want physical media (a dvd) and > it appears you must have a valid email address at a university or > college. > > as for the op other question, thought it would work, i would not > recommend any laptop for video editing. lattitude models have > relatively small capacity hard disks making it even less appropriate > for video editing. You can go to 500 gig native, and there are external much bigger. A laptop is the way to go for college. Clearly a big desktop is better overall for video, but compromises have to be made... Thanks, -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...) |