From: Roedy Green on
Oracle has been pulling documentation off the Sun website and giving
it strange new URLs to make it hard to find the new docs.

e.g.
// used to be:
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/regex/quant.html
// now:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17409_01/javase/tutorial/essential/regex/quant.html

The Guides seem to have disappeared. They used to be part of the JDK.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com

You encapsulate not just to save typing, but more importantly, to make it easy and safe to change the code later, since you then need change the logic in only one place. Without it, you might fail to change the logic in all the places it occurs.
From: Arved Sandstrom on
Roedy Green wrote:
> Oracle has been pulling documentation off the Sun website and giving
> it strange new URLs to make it hard to find the new docs.
>
> e.g.
> // used to be:
> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/regex/quant.html
> // now:
> http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17409_01/javase/tutorial/essential/regex/quant.html
>
> The Guides seem to have disappeared. They used to be part of the JDK.

I don't think they're doing it on purpose. They've always had a fairly
crappy website, so it's only fair that the Sun documentation also gets
the treatment.

AHS

--
The warning message we sent the Russians was a calculated ambiguity that
would be clearly understood.
-- Alexander Haig
From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 10-07-2010 09:22, Roedy Green wrote:
> Oracle has been pulling documentation off the Sun website and giving
> it strange new URLs to make it hard to find the new docs.
>
> e.g.
> // used to be:
> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/regex/quant.html
> // now:
> http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17409_01/javase/tutorial/essential/regex/quant.html
>
> The Guides seem to have disappeared. They used to be part of the JDK.

The URL's should not matter much.

The reason behind the URL's are probably the use of some
portal/CMS system.

Obviously everything should be there, but I would expect
it to eventually be there - but when moving huge web sites
around, then a few things can be forgotten.

I suggest you inform the web master about the problem.

Arne


From: Jeff Higgins on
On 7/10/2010 11:54 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Arne Vajh�j<arne(a)vajhoej.dk> writes:
>> The URL's should not matter much.
>
> Yes, but:
>
> �Cool URIs Don't Change�
>
> http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/uri


Multiple Choices
Now that is hilarious.


>
> Now, suddenly thousands of link collections are partially
> invalidated and many hours are spend to update links all
> around the world without any additional benefit.
>
>> The reason behind the URL's are probably the use of some
>> portal/CMS system.
>
> That should not be an excuse. After all, the software should
> follow and implement the policies chosen by humans. Humans
> should not instead follow and implement what their software
> requires. A capable engineer should be able to implement any
> wanted URI naming scheme with a CMS.
>

From: Mike Schilling on


"Roedy Green" <see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:2grg361pjgplv9jcj552tt9bptc2s469g2(a)4ax.com...
> Oracle has been pulling documentation off the Sun website and giving
> it strange new URLs to make it hard to find the new docs.
>
> e.g.
> // used to be:
> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/regex/quant.html
> // now:
> http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17409_01/javase/tutorial/essential/regex/quant.html

The Java serialization specification, for instance, is now hidden at
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17476_01/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/serialization/spec/serialTOC.html .
I was able to find it only by using the obscure technique of googling for
Java serialization specification.