Does Remote Desktop Services (in 2008 R2) plug and play on an SBS 2003 network?
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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 10 May 2010 19:50 Milhouse if you don't know what Remote Apps is Here is some information from Susan Bradley; http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2008/09/16/windows-2008-ts-remote-app.aspx or in addition you can buy this book ;) Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Administrator's Companion (Pro-Administrator's Companion) http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Business-Administrators-Companion-Pro-Administrators/dp/0735620202/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273535352&sr=1-3 Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:OvfC$RJ8KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Oh, and FWIW - if you're running SBS 2008 instead of 2003, then you can > actually put RemoteApps directly on the RWW front page. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel > > > > > "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message > news:euU4nsI8KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> For reference, I think you mean these steps: >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747395(WS.10).aspx >> >> Though it looks like a heaping helping of the SBS2008 instructions can be >> leveraged too: >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd262139(WS.10).aspx >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Standard looks adequate, particularly since >> I think that's what's included with SBS2008 Premium for its separate >> server: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-compare-roles.aspx >> >> BTW, do you know if this ties into RWW? We'd mostly or entirely use the >> RemoteApp method, making RWW moot for TS purposes, but I'm curious. I >> know it does if you're using old TS, at least. I ask because there was >> this comment at the end of this article: "OK, so what if you add a member >> server and it is running Remote Desktop Services. It currently does not >> show up in Remote Web Workplace. Is there something that needs to be done >> in order to make this appear?" >> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708131(WS.10).aspx >> >> Thanks! >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message >> news:eaQVxRF8KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Works fine. The same steps are used as for a Server 2003 TS, except that >>> the RD License server MUST be at least Server 2008 SP2 or later. So your >>> best bet is to simply run it locally on the Server 2008 R2 server. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>> >>> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message >>> news:ODw$cL%237KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> We have SBS 2003 R2 and would like to put up a terminal server (on a >>>> separate box, of course). Must the old 2003 version be used, or can R2 >>>> be used? I'd very much like to use R2, particularly since increasingly >>>> the clients are Win7, but not if it wreaks havoc on the network due to >>>> an SBS conflict of some kind. Thanks. >>> >
From: Milhouse Van Houten on 10 May 2010 22:24 Right, I'm still catching up and didn't yet know that there was a Registry hack to get the "Connect to application server" line to show up there. That must be what the guy below was asking about. With the advent of publishing RemoteApps in the user's Start menu though, I don't imagine that many people here will be using it via RWW. Now the question is whether we'll have enough machine to get away with virtualizing RDS on the new secondary server. That would be nice, since I'd like to gain experience with HyperV, but figuring out how well things would run like that is not straightforward at all. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:#IWVYRJ8KHA.420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > What do you mean by "ties into RWW"? If you mean, does it show as an > "application server", yes, once you've set things up correctly. > > And yes, Standard is perfectly adequate, assuming you can get by with a > mere 32 GB of RAM on it. If you have more users than that, you're probably > not running SBS. ;) > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel > > > > > "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message > news:euU4nsI8KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> For reference, I think you mean these steps: >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747395(WS.10).aspx >> >> Though it looks like a heaping helping of the SBS2008 instructions can be >> leveraged too: >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd262139(WS.10).aspx >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Standard looks adequate, particularly since >> I think that's what's included with SBS2008 Premium for its separate >> server: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-compare-roles.aspx >> >> BTW, do you know if this ties into RWW? We'd mostly or entirely use the >> RemoteApp method, making RWW moot for TS purposes, but I'm curious. I >> know it does if you're using old TS, at least. I ask because there was >> this comment at the end of this article: "OK, so what if you add a member >> server and it is running Remote Desktop Services. It currently does not >> show up in Remote Web Workplace. Is there something that needs to be done >> in order to make this appear?" >> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708131(WS.10).aspx >> >> Thanks! >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message >> news:eaQVxRF8KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Works fine. The same steps are used as for a Server 2003 TS, except that >>> the RD License server MUST be at least Server 2008 SP2 or later. So your >>> best bet is to simply run it locally on the Server 2008 R2 server. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>> >>> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message >>> news:ODw$cL%237KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> We have SBS 2003 R2 and would like to put up a terminal server (on a >>>> separate box, of course). Must the old 2003 version be used, or can R2 >>>> be used? I'd very much like to use R2, particularly since increasingly >>>> the clients are Win7, but not if it wreaks havoc on the network due to >>>> an SBS conflict of some kind. Thanks. >>> >
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 11 May 2010 00:54
Actually, I think RWW or the standard RD Web Services make a great deal of sense for RemoteApps. For those who only connect occasionally (say to a specific LOB app) or who are casual employees, or whatever. By putting it on a web page, you avoid all sorts of other issues, including not having to give users admin rights to install the RemoteApp. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:uwftjEL8KHA.1316(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Right, I'm still catching up and didn't yet know that there was a Registry > hack to get the "Connect to application server" line to show up there. > That must be what the guy below was asking about. With the advent of > publishing RemoteApps in the user's Start menu though, I don't imagine > that many people here will be using it via RWW. > > Now the question is whether we'll have enough machine to get away with > virtualizing RDS on the new secondary server. That would be nice, since > I'd like to gain experience with HyperV, but figuring out how well things > would run like that is not straightforward at all. > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:#IWVYRJ8KHA.420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> What do you mean by "ties into RWW"? If you mean, does it show as an >> "application server", yes, once you've set things up correctly. >> >> And yes, Standard is perfectly adequate, assuming you can get by with a >> mere 32 GB of RAM on it. If you have more users than that, you're >> probably not running SBS. ;) >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >> >> >> >> >> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message >> news:euU4nsI8KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> For reference, I think you mean these steps: >>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747395(WS.10).aspx >>> >>> Though it looks like a heaping helping of the SBS2008 instructions can >>> be leveraged too: >>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd262139(WS.10).aspx >>> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Standard looks adequate, particularly since >>> I think that's what's included with SBS2008 Premium for its separate >>> server: >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-compare-roles.aspx >>> >>> BTW, do you know if this ties into RWW? We'd mostly or entirely use the >>> RemoteApp method, making RWW moot for TS purposes, but I'm curious. I >>> know it does if you're using old TS, at least. I ask because there was >>> this comment at the end of this article: "OK, so what if you add a >>> member server and it is running Remote Desktop Services. It currently >>> does not show up in Remote Web Workplace. Is there something that needs >>> to be done in order to make this appear?" >>> >>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708131(WS.10).aspx >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>> message news:eaQVxRF8KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Works fine. The same steps are used as for a Server 2003 TS, except >>>> that the RD License server MUST be at least Server 2008 SP2 or later. >>>> So your best bet is to simply run it locally on the Server 2008 R2 >>>> server. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. >>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>>> >>>> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ODw$cL%237KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> We have SBS 2003 R2 and would like to put up a terminal server (on a >>>>> separate box, of course). Must the old 2003 version be used, or can R2 >>>>> be used? I'd very much like to use R2, particularly since >>>>> increasingly the clients are Win7, but not if it wreaks havoc on the >>>>> network due to an SBS conflict of some kind. Thanks. >>>> >> |