Does anyone else wish Matlab could handle Open Documents?
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From: Yuval Aviel on 24 Mar 2010 09:11 "Steven Lord" <slord(a)mathworks.com> wrote in message <f75nis$lh3$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > > "Darren " <darrenb(a)NOSPAM.udel.edu> wrote in message > news:f75gcn$6h$1(a)fred.mathworks.com... > >I personally see this as a severe hindrance to Matlab. It works great on > >Linux and MacOS but can only read and write Excel spreadsheets, and that > >rarely works properly without ActiveX. > > > > Has anyone developed code to handle (read and write) Open Document > > Spreadsheets? If not, Mathworks needs to get off their butts and get with > > the times. > > > > Let me know what you guys think. > > > > Darren > > I've noted your interest in this in our enhancement database. In the > future, though, if you want to request an enhancement you should also send a > message to technical support in addition to posting to CSSM. The support > group specifically tracks how many people ask for each enhancement that is > requested by a user that contacts support and shares that information with > development. In addition, it may be that the enhancement you request is > already in the product, and in that case support can tell you that and tell > you how to access your requested functionality. > > -- > Steve Lord > slord(a)mathworks.com > > Steve, It is not clear from your message what exactly should we (supporters of this missing feature) should do in order to tell Mathwork to implement it. If its sending an email, could you provide the email? If its voting on some bug/issue report, could you provide the link? Thanks, Yuval.
From: Steven Lord on 24 Mar 2010 09:53 "Yuval Aviel" <yuval.aviel.extra(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:hod318$lqk$1(a)fred.mathworks.com... > "Steven Lord" <slord(a)mathworks.com> wrote in message > <f75nis$lh3$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... >> >> "Darren " <darrenb(a)NOSPAM.udel.edu> wrote in message >> news:f75gcn$6h$1(a)fred.mathworks.com... >> >I personally see this as a severe hindrance to Matlab. It works great >> >on Linux and MacOS but can only read and write Excel spreadsheets, and >> >that rarely works properly without ActiveX. >> > >> > Has anyone developed code to handle (read and write) Open Document >> > Spreadsheets? If not, Mathworks needs to get off their butts and get >> > with the times. >> > >> > Let me know what you guys think. >> > >> > Darren >> >> I've noted your interest in this in our enhancement database. In the >> future, though, if you want to request an enhancement you should also >> send a message to technical support in addition to posting to CSSM. The >> support group specifically tracks how many people ask for each >> enhancement that is requested by a user that contacts support and shares >> that information with development. In addition, it may be that the >> enhancement you request is already in the product, and in that case >> support can tell you that and tell you how to access your requested >> functionality. >> >> -- >> Steve Lord >> slord(a)mathworks.com > Steve, > It is not clear from your message what exactly should we (supporters of > this missing feature) should do in order to tell Mathwork to implement it. > If its sending an email, could you provide the email? > If its voting on some bug/issue report, could you provide the link? Send a description of why you feel the enhancement is important (and how you would use it if it were implemented) to Technical Support using the "Product Feedback" section on the Contact Us page linked at the top of http://www.mathworks.com and ask them to add your feedback to the existing request in our enhancement database. Giving your use case is particularly important, as developers can use that information to help them design the feature. [For example, if the developers decide to work on this feature, determine that most people asking for this functionality are only interested in reading Open Document spreadsheets, and realize that implementing support for reading in different types of Open Documents takes significant effort, they're likely going to focus on including spreadsheet support first when implementing this enhancement.] -- Steve Lord slord(a)mathworks.com comp.soft-sys.matlab (CSSM) FAQ: http://matlabwiki.mathworks.com/MATLAB_FAQ
From: Eric on 26 Mar 2010 13:15 I don't mean to be flame-baiting, I just don't know much about Linux/Unix/MacOS. Is it really so difficult to communicate between programs in Linux/Unix/MacOS? Interfacing Matlab and other programs is pretty trivial on Windows. I've used .NET, COM, ActiveX, and DDE. Is the difficulty on other platforms a shortcoming of Matlab or the other operating systems? Again, I'm not trying to be a smart-a$$. I'm actually curious as to what the technical difficulties are. Also, I've written code to read/write data from Mathcad XMCD files since they're just XML underneath. Wouldn't something similar for Open Documents be possible? I thought that was the whole point of using XML. -Eric
From: Stan Bischof on 26 Mar 2010 13:56 Eric <not(a)givingemail.com> wrote: > I don't mean to be flame-baiting, I just don't know much about > Linux/Unix/MacOS. > > Is it really so difficult to communicate between programs in > Linux/Unix/MacOS? Interfacing Matlab and other programs is pretty > trivial on Windows. I've used .NET, COM, ActiveX, and DDE. Is the > difficulty on other platforms a shortcoming of Matlab or the other > operating systems? > In short, "yes" and "other operating systems". Unlike the Widnows world with COM/ActiveX/dotNET, the Unix/unix/Linux worlds never adopted a common portable object model and actually used it. One has ancient stuff like CORBA ( predates COM ) and modern variants like UNO ( what Open Office uses- kinda cloned from CORBA) but finding any more than a handful of programs that support these is very hard. A link to OO in Linux would be doable but would be special-cased so unless there were lots of demand I don't see how Mathworks would want to deal with it. As MONO progresses, bringing dotNET to the Linux world this situation might improve, since then a cross-platform supported portable object capability will exist. Of course then would have the issue of persuading Sun to move to dotNET , but that's a whole different story. Stan
From: Yuval Aviel on 7 Apr 2010 04:21
"Steven Lord" <slord(a)mathworks.com> wrote in message <hod5gb$4nt$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > > "Yuval Aviel" <yuval.aviel.extra(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hod318$lqk$1(a)fred.mathworks.com... > > "Steven Lord" <slord(a)mathworks.com> wrote in message > > <f75nis$lh3$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > >> > >> "Darren " <darrenb(a)NOSPAM.udel.edu> wrote in message > >> news:f75gcn$6h$1(a)fred.mathworks.com... > >> >I personally see this as a severe hindrance to Matlab. It works great > >> >on Linux and MacOS but can only read and write Excel spreadsheets, and > >> >that rarely works properly without ActiveX. > >> > > >> > Has anyone developed code to handle (read and write) Open Document > >> > Spreadsheets? If not, Mathworks needs to get off their butts and get > >> > with the times. > >> > > >> > Let me know what you guys think. > >> > > >> > Darren > >> > >> I've noted your interest in this in our enhancement database. In the > >> future, though, if you want to request an enhancement you should also > >> send a message to technical support in addition to posting to CSSM. The > >> support group specifically tracks how many people ask for each > >> enhancement that is requested by a user that contacts support and shares > >> that information with development. In addition, it may be that the > >> enhancement you request is already in the product, and in that case > >> support can tell you that and tell you how to access your requested > >> functionality. > >> > >> -- > >> Steve Lord > >> slord(a)mathworks.com > > Steve, > > It is not clear from your message what exactly should we (supporters of > > this missing feature) should do in order to tell Mathwork to implement it. > > If its sending an email, could you provide the email? > > If its voting on some bug/issue report, could you provide the link? > > Send a description of why you feel the enhancement is important (and how you > would use it if it were implemented) to Technical Support using the "Product > Feedback" section on the Contact Us page linked at the top of > http://www.mathworks.com and ask them to add your feedback to the existing > request in our enhancement database. Giving your use case is particularly > important, as developers can use that information to help them design the > feature. [For example, if the developers decide to work on this feature, > determine that most people asking for this functionality are only interested > in reading Open Document spreadsheets, and realize that implementing support > for reading in different types of Open Documents takes significant effort, > they're likely going to focus on including spreadsheet support first when > implementing this enhancement.] > > -- > Steve Lord > slord(a)mathworks.com > comp.soft-sys.matlab (CSSM) FAQ: http://matlabwiki.mathworks.com/MATLAB_FAQ > Hi All, Here is what I sent to Mathwork: =========================================== Title: Read/Write OpenDocument Spreadsheet files (.ods) Matlab can conveniently read and write Excel files. Non-Windows operating systems, however, don't have Excel, hence this convenient feature is useless. On the other hand, all operating systems have OpenOffice application. OpenOffice uses the OpenDocument ISO standard with file name extension .ods. Many other applications read and write .ods files on various of operating systems and platforms. Matlab, that runs on non-Windows operating systems, did not implement a read/write function from/to .ods files. We ask this feature to be implemented. For developers: A starting point could be odftoolkit.org or jopendocument.org: [http://www.jopendocument.org/start_spreadsheet_2.html] =========================================== Feel free to send similar messages too. You'll have to go to http://www.mathworks.com/support/service_requests/contact_support.do and fill in the details. good luck. |