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From: David Cournapeau on 21 Apr 2010 22:56 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote: >> ... or because Mingw32 doesn't provide the header files (in particular >> wrt. C++), or because linking with a library is necessary that uses the >> MSVC mangling, not the g++ one (again, for C++). > > Again, that would be code thatâs not portable off Windows. Not really, part of the issue is that mingw uses ancient gcc (3.x series), and g++ 3.x has poor C++ support compared to MSVC (or gcc 4.x). There is also the issue that gcc debugging symbols are totally incompatible with MSVC, so you cannot debug things from anything but gdb. Gcc for win64 is also not that stable yet - when porting numpy and scipy on windows 64, I got numerous issues with it. None of this has anything to do with portability. cheers, David
From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro on 26 Apr 2010 06:16 Just been looking at this review of Visual Studio 2010 <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/26/blowing_bubbtles/>: ... the 2GB ISO was quicker to download than it was to install - not even counting the several reboots required. Since when do you need to REBOOT just to install a development environment?
From: Andrej Mitrovic on 26 Apr 2010 18:41 On Apr 26, 12:16 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...(a)geek- central.gen.new_zealand> wrote: > Just been looking at this review of Visual Studio 2010 > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/26/blowing_bubbtles/>: > > ... the 2GB ISO was quicker to download than it was to install - not > even counting the several reboots required. > > Since when do you need to REBOOT just to install a development environment? Sure beats having to recompile a kernel to support 3rd party audio drivers. But YMMV. Although I agree, moving away from VS would be nice. Since Unladen Swallow will eventually be merged with Python, will the dev team consider trying out Clang as an alternative to VS?
From: Lie Ryan on 27 Apr 2010 05:44 On 04/27/10 08:41, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: > Although I agree, moving away from VS would be nice. Since Unladen > Swallow will eventually be merged with Python, will the dev team > consider trying out Clang as an alternative to VS? What would Unladen Swallow brings that would allow the development of CPython to move away from VS? Isn't Unladen Swallow's goal is only to speed up CPython. Do you mean PyPy?
From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro on 30 Apr 2010 20:12 In message <530938a5-d865-4228-8d4a-402a39941c2a(a)k36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: > Sure beats having to recompile a kernel to support 3rd party audio > drivers. Which is a less fraught process than {B7C0D3A0-F949-44AD-ACE5-FB845B8C1EB7} ing Registry edits, don't you thin? You never know what {46E68550-70E4-4CAE-9C69-5C73CE2893CA} it might be having on your machine, to the point where you are no longer able to {362CAB02-8A1F-4337- A441-8149848BD319} it.
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