From: Val Hallah on
On May 20, 4:52 pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 May 2010 23:06:02 -0700 (PDT), Val Hallah
>
> <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 20, 3:23 am, RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> First off, Dpreview gets shafted by Sony, who release the NEX cameras
> >> to other sites to review.  Then, Dpreview gets hold of the camera,
> >> finds out the 16mm f2.8 lens is a DOG (I presume) and tries to hide
> >> the fact from their readers by only using sample shots taken at narrow
> >> apertures!  Then Sony, after other sites "outed" the lens as being a
> >> turkey, issues a statement that the lenses are all pre-production.
> >> Dpreview dutifully publishes it.  I'm surprised there aren't little
> >> cardboard cards with pictures of Phil Askey littering phone booths in
> >> Britain...
>
> >thats why you need an Olympus sp800uz
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40732837(a)N07/
>
> No-one *needs* an Olympus sp800uz, as your images prove.  They are
> nice snapshots, with some quite competent composition, but what you
> need is a camera that gives you some real creative control.
>
> Specifically, you need a camera that allows you to differentiate the
> subject from the background by defocusing the background leaving the
> subject in sharp focus.  Unfortunately, using the wrong camera has
> spoiled what would have been much better images if shot with the right
> camera.  
>
> What you need is a camera with a much larger sensor.  Four Thirds (or
> Micro Four Thirds) should be the absolute minimum size of sensor for
> creative work.  You may want to consider a camera with a slightly
> larger APS-C size sensor, such as the new Sony NEX series or most
> prosumer DSLRs, or even a full frame DSLR.  
>
> The more limited depth of field that you get with a larger sensor will
> allow you to concentrate on the subject and blur the background,
> giving the subject much greater prominence.
>
> The images that would have benefitted include P5160001, 02, 03, 09,
> 15, 16 and 22 among others.
>
> You have a good eye for subjects and composition.  It's a pity to
> waste your talents by using a camera that limits your creativity.

....still for GBP 270 its an excellent camera with a very long lens....
From: Bruce on
On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Val Hallah
<michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 20, 4:52�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You have a good eye for subjects and composition. �It's a pity to
>> waste your talents by using a camera that limits your creativity.
>
>...still for GBP 270 its an excellent camera with a very long lens....


No, it's a cheap camera with a very long lens that gives very poor
results for anyone with any creativity.

You are far more talented as a photographer than you are at choosing
equipment.

From: John Navas on
On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:35:52 +0100, Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote
in <c3pav51a5ejrj9k5fqdqksbv25sutmolo4(a)4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Val Hallah
><michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On May 20, 4:52�pm, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have a good eye for subjects and composition. �It's a pity to
>>> waste your talents by using a camera that limits your creativity.
>>
>>...still for GBP 270 its an excellent camera with a very long lens....
>
>No, it's a cheap camera with a very long lens that gives very poor
>results for anyone with any creativity.
>
>You are far more talented as a photographer than you are at choosing
>equipment.

"A bad workman always blames his tools." [proverb]

It's a common misconception that a great tool can make you a great
workman. It can't. What matters is the workman, not the tool.
Great photos can be taken with pretty much *any* camera.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: Stuffed Crust on
In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> "A bad workman always blames his tools." [proverb]
>
> It's a common misconception that a great tool can make you a great
> workman. It can't. What matters is the workman, not the tool.
> Great photos can be taken with pretty much *any* camera.

Yeah, you can use a screwdriver as a chisel, sometimes wih decent-ish
results, but that dosn't change the fact that with a real chisel you'll
get better results considerably more easily -- and it'll also let you do
things that simply weren't possible with a screwdriver. Assuming you
know what you're doing.

- Solomon
--
Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org
Melbourne, FL ^^ (mail/jabber/gtalk) ^^
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
From: John Navas on
On 20 May 2010 17:16:21 GMT, Stuffed Crust <pizza(a)spam.shaftnet.org>
wrote in <4bf56e65$0$15394$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>:

>In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> "A bad workman always blames his tools." [proverb]
>>
>> It's a common misconception that a great tool can make you a great
>> workman. It can't. What matters is the workman, not the tool.
>> Great photos can be taken with pretty much *any* camera.
>
>Yeah, you can use a screwdriver as a chisel, sometimes wih decent-ish
>results, but that dosn't change the fact that with a real chisel you'll
>get better results considerably more easily -- and it'll also let you do
>things that simply weren't possible with a screwdriver. Assuming you
>know what you're doing.

Flawed analogy, as I'm sure you know. ;)

Again, great photos can be taken with pretty much *any* camera.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams