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From: Alan Harris-Reid on 23 Feb 2010 06:56 gorauskas wrote: > I installed it on a Windows 7 machine with CPython 2.6.4 and I get the > following error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "dreampie.py", line 3, in <module> > File "dreampielib\gui\__init__.pyc", line 73, in <module> > File "dreampielib\gui\load_pygtk.pyc", line 49, in load_pygtk > ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, JGG And I installed it on WinXP sp3 and Python 3.1 - when launched a window flashes before my eyes, then disappears! Has the installation package been checked for all common Windows versions? Regards, Alan
From: Noam Yorav-Raphael on 23 Feb 2010 07:11 âThanks! I'm happy you like it! Thanks for the feedback too. Here are my replies. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Chris Colbert <sccolbert(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is bloody fantastic! I must say, this fixes everything I hate about > Ipython and gives me the feature I wished it had (with a few minor > exceptions). > I confirm this working on Kubuntu 9.10 using the ppa listed on the sites > download page. Great. It's important to know. > I also confirm that it works interactively with PyQt4 and PyGtk (as to be > expected since these toolkits use the PyOS_inputhook for the mainloop). > However, it does not work interactively with wx (again, this is as expected > since wx doesn't use the PyOS_inputhook). In short, the gui toolkit support > is the same as in Ipython if you dont use any of the magic threading > switches, which are now deprecated anyway. Actually, currently DreamPie doesn't use PyOS_inputhook, but implements the GUI hooks by itself. So it should be possible to implement wx support if there's a way to handle events for a few milliseconds. I tried it a bit and didn't find how to do it - if you are interested in wx support and think you can help, please do. > Matplotlib does not work interactively for me. Is there a special switch > that needs to be used? or should a pick a non-wx backend? (i'm thinking the > latter is more likely) You should set "interactive:True" in your matplotlibrc file. The next DreamPie version will warn about this. > A couple of things I would like to see (and will help implement if I can > find the time): > 1) A shortcut to show the docstring of an object. Something like Ipython's > `?`. i.e.  `object.foo?` translates to `help(object.foo)` I wrote this at http://wiki.python.org/moin/DreamPieFeatureRequests . I hope I will manage to implement this soon. > 2) How do I change the color of the blinking cursor at the bottom? I can't > see the damn thing! It should be in the color of the default text. If this is not the case, please file a bug! > 3) line numbers instead of the `>>>` prompt I know IPython does this, but I thought you needed it only if placing the cursor on top of the command doesn't do anything. Can you tell me why do you need this in the context of a graphical user interface? > 4) a plugin facility where we can define our own `magic` commands. I use > Ipython's %timeit ALL the time. Added it to the feature request page. > 5) Double-click to re-fold the output section as well. I don't think that's a good idea, because usually double-click selects the word, and I don't want to change that behavior for regular text. You can use ctrl-minus to fold the last output section! > Thanks for making this!!!! Thanks for the feedback! Noam
From: Olof Bjarnason on 23 Feb 2010 08:25 2010/2/23 Noam Yorav-Raphael <noamraph(a)gmail.com>: > âThanks! I'm happy you like it! > Thanks for the feedback too. Here are my replies. > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Chris Colbert <sccolbert(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> This is bloody fantastic! I must say, this fixes everything I hate about >> Ipython and gives me the feature I wished it had (with a few minor >> exceptions). >> I confirm this working on Kubuntu 9.10 using the ppa listed on the sites >> download page. > Great. It's important to know. > >> I also confirm that it works interactively with PyQt4 and PyGtk (as to be >> expected since these toolkits use the PyOS_inputhook for the mainloop). >> However, it does not work interactively with wx (again, this is as expected >> since wx doesn't use the PyOS_inputhook). In short, the gui toolkit support >> is the same as in Ipython if you dont use any of the magic threading >> switches, which are now deprecated anyway. > Actually, currently DreamPie doesn't use PyOS_inputhook, but > implements the GUI hooks by itself. So it should be possible to > implement wx support if there's a way to handle events for a few > milliseconds. I tried it a bit and didn't find how to do it - if you > are interested in wx support and think you can help, please do. > >> Matplotlib does not work interactively for me. Is there a special switch >> that needs to be used? or should a pick a non-wx backend? (i'm thinking the >> latter is more likely) > You should set "interactive:True" in your matplotlibrc file. The next > DreamPie version will warn about this. > >> A couple of things I would like to see (and will help implement if I can >> find the time): >> 1) A shortcut to show the docstring of an object. Something like Ipython's >> `?`. i.e.  `object.foo?` translates to `help(object.foo)` > I wrote this at http://wiki.python.org/moin/DreamPieFeatureRequests . > I hope I will manage to implement this soon. > >> 2) How do I change the color of the blinking cursor at the bottom? I can't >> see the damn thing! > It should be in the color of the default text. If this is not the > case, please file a bug! > >> 3) line numbers instead of the `>>>` prompt > I know IPython does this, but I thought you needed it only if placing > the cursor on top of the command doesn't do anything. Can you tell me > why do you need this in the context of a graphical user interface? > >> 4) a plugin facility where we can define our own `magic` commands. I use >> Ipython's %timeit ALL the time. > Added it to the feature request page. > >> 5) Double-click to re-fold the output section as well. > I don't think that's a good idea, because usually double-click selects > the word, and I don't want to change that behavior for regular text. > You can use ctrl-minus to fold the last output section! > >> Thanks for making this!!!! > Thanks for the feedback! I installed latest .exe from LP on my Win7/32-bit machine, nothing happens when I start DreamPie. Is there a bug report file somewhere I could send you Noam? (Python2.6.4 installed on my machine) > > Noam > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://olofb.wordpress.com
From: alex23 on 27 Feb 2010 00:31 Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "You're" not getting the point. If every link has to be accompanied by a summary of all of the information at the end of it, what point is there to linking? (Programmers are the _only_ people I know of who complain about the arduousness of tasks like typing quotes or clicking on links...)
From: Steven D'Aprano on 27 Feb 2010 06:45
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:31:47 -0800, alex23 wrote: > Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> "You're" not getting the point. > > If every link has to be accompanied by a summary of all of the > information at the end of it, what point is there to linking? > > (Programmers are the _only_ people I know of who complain about the > arduousness of tasks like typing quotes or clicking on links...) Once you've clicked on a link to Tubgirl or Goatsie Man once, you will never, ever, ever click on an untrusted link again. *wink* But seriously... I dislike being sent links without any explanation of what is in them, because in my experience, 9 times out of 10 if I had been told, I wouldn't have bothered to clink on the link. -- Steven |