From: Lar on
I have a recurring problem that I am not sure what the cause of is.

I am seeing duplicated linked transactions. For example I send parts of my
net pay to 3 different accounts. I enter the check into the main account
with all the splits to account for insurance, tax and the like categorized
and I have splits that are transfers to the subsidiary accounts.

I am seeing multiple entries in the subsidiary accounts. They are not
independently deletable, as I get the "this is a transfer to a split and
cannot be deleted here" warning box. If I use go to matching transaction,
all the duplicates take me to the same linked master.

I've seen this multiple times now. This is a big, and old, data file
(aside, what do folk do with data files when they get big? One of my
checking accounts is about to wrap around since both my bank and Q seem to
only handle 4 digit checks and I've written almost 10000 checks now in
that account. Do folk start a new account? Archive data past a certain
age?)

The last time it happened I manually repaired it by deleting the master
transactions (there were only 2 or 3), deleting all the linked ones, and
then reentering the master. But this time I got well over a dozen of them
and reentering all those splits is daunting! Ack.

I am pretty sure it's data corruption because when it first appeared the
subsidiary transactions had gibberish in the check number fields. (instead
of EFT or check numbers or nothing, they had random letters and graphic
symbols)

I've tried validate and super validate, and I've also tried doing a copy
to a new data file to try to let Q clean things up.

I searched for posts that might describe this, I found some that were sort
of close (duplicated download transactions, something I also get from time
to time with one of my Amex accounts) but no one reporting duplicated
splits.

Thanks for any assistance. I like Q but I find it frustrating...

Larry Pieniazek
Quicken user since 1997 or so...






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From: John Pollard on
Lar wrote:
> I have a recurring problem that I am not sure what the cause of is.
>
> I am seeing duplicated linked transactions. For example I send parts
> of my net pay to 3 different accounts. I enter the check into the
> main account with all the splits to account for insurance, tax and
> the like categorized and I have splits that are transfers to the
> subsidiary accounts.
>
> I am seeing multiple entries in the subsidiary accounts. They are not
> independently deletable, as I get the "this is a transfer to a split
> and cannot be deleted here" warning box. If I use go to matching
> transaction, all the duplicates take me to the same linked master.
>
> I've seen this multiple times now. This is a big, and old, data file
> (aside, what do folk do with data files when they get big? One of my
> checking accounts is about to wrap around since both my bank and Q
> seem to only handle 4 digit checks and I've written almost 10000
> checks now in that account. Do folk start a new account? Archive data
> past a certain age?)
>
> The last time it happened I manually repaired it by deleting the
> master transactions (there were only 2 or 3), deleting all the linked
> ones, and then reentering the master. But this time I got well over a
> dozen of them and reentering all those splits is daunting! Ack.
>
> I am pretty sure it's data corruption because when it first appeared
> the subsidiary transactions had gibberish in the check number fields.
> (instead of EFT or check numbers or nothing, they had random letters
> and graphic symbols)
>
> I've tried validate and super validate, and I've also tried doing a
> copy to a new data file to try to let Q clean things up.
>
> I searched for posts that might describe this, I found some that were
> sort of close (duplicated download transactions, something I also get
> from time to time with one of my Amex accounts) but no one reporting
> duplicated splits.

This problem has been reported before.

https://qlc.intuit.com/post/search_fullg?f_st=Answered&query=split+AND+transfer+AND+duplicate&range=6


I know of no definitive answer; but I think you can make the workaround a
bit simpler by doing a Cut/Paste of the split transaction.



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From: Lar on
Lar had written this in response to
http://www.rockryno.com/quicken/Re-Duplicated-Linked-transactions-in-Quicken-H-B-2008-23142-.htm
:

Larry Pieniazek
Quicken user since 1997 or so...

-------------------------------------
John Pollard wrote:

> Lar wrote:

(snip original problem description)

> This problem has been reported before.

>
https://qlc.intuit.com/post/search_fullg?f_st=Answered&query=split+AND+transfer+AND+duplicate&range=6

> I know of no definitive answer; but I think you can make the workaround
> a bit simpler by doing a Cut/Paste of the split transaction.


Thanks John. What is making me scratch my head is that the transactions
were fine and have been in the register for a long time, but now they've
suddenly sprouted duplicate transfers. I didn't edit them (as one poster
in that search you gave apparently did) nor did I recently download them
(they date back two years). In some cases they've been in my register for
years. I'm loth to re-enter some, as they are 15 part splits... pay checks
with lots of deductions and taxes and the like. One of the threads your
search finds seems to have several users that have pretty much my exact
problem, across several versions.
(https://qlc.intuit.com/post/show_post_full_view/aCOB2k9YWr3OOHacfArQA8?p=1&q=split+AND+transfer+AND+duplicate&s=0
)

Sigh. For transactions this complex cut/paste is scary. I used it to fix
the 2 or 3 transactions that were affected the first time this happened
but now I have quite a few more.



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From: John Pollard on
Lar wrote:

> What is making me scratch my head is that the
> transactions were fine and have been in the register for a long time,
> but now they've suddenly sprouted duplicate transfers. I didn't edit
> them (as one poster in that search you gave apparently did) nor did I
> recently download them (they date back two years). In some cases
> they've been in my register for years. I'm loth to re-enter some, as
> they are 15 part splits... pay checks with lots of deductions and
> taxes and the like. One of the threads your search finds seems to
> have several users that have pretty much my exact problem, across
> several versions.
> (https://qlc.intuit.com/post/show_post_full_view/aCOB2k9YWr3OOHacfArQA8?p=1&q=split+AND+transfer+AND+duplicate&s=0
> )
>
> Sigh. For transactions this complex cut/paste is scary. I used it to
> fix the 2 or 3 transactions that were affected the first time this
> happened but now I have quite a few more.

You should be able to minimize, or eliminate, any permanent negative side
effects of deleting and re-entering (cutting and pasting) by backing up
before you start. If you discover unwanted, unfixable, results; you can
revert to the backup.

I don't recall reading of any other "solution".

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