From: mdoster on 21 Apr 2010 13:33 Ok... it's me again - brand new user... I need to list resources (sometimes multiple) for each task, but ONLY show it shows up on a report for each person. We do not assign or track real/actaul hours. So here's what I've done to try to simplify... Task #1: Tasks/Advanced Tab: "Must Start On" with a start date (this is the only constraint I've set in the project); Fixed Duration; Effort Driven unchecked All other tasks have the same settings except no constraint date and default to "As Soon as Possible." Each Resource: Booking type - Proposed; Type - Work; Change Working Time - I've added in their vacation days; $0 per hour So my project is set up so that I set the start date and manually keep adjusting it until I hit the finish date I need. It was working fine until I added the resources and now it will change the duration on a couple of task when I set the start date on Task #1. I'm so frustrated... isn't there a way to 1) truly lock down the duration and 2) list resources without it trying to list any scheduled/actual time/hours? This should be so simple. Sigh... Melinda As
From: C on 21 Apr 2010 15:01 Hello Melinda, I have entered in the scenario you describe below. It must be the non working (vacation days) you have entered for your resources. I set the start date for task 1 and entered a non working day during the task time span and indeed the task duration increased. Look at the tasks that are adding duration and see if there is non working time set for these tasks. Also go to help and search on task types. Select the about task types to see how Project makes its calculations. "mdoster" wrote: > Ok... it's me again - brand new user... > > I need to list resources (sometimes multiple) for each task, but ONLY show > it shows up on a report for each person. We do not assign or track > real/actaul hours. So here's what I've done to try to simplify... > Task #1: Tasks/Advanced Tab: "Must Start On" with a start date (this is > the only constraint I've set in the project); Fixed Duration; Effort Driven > unchecked > All other tasks have the same settings except no constraint date and default > to "As Soon as Possible." > > Each Resource: Booking type - Proposed; Type - Work; Change Working Time - > I've added in their vacation days; $0 per hour > > So my project is set up so that I set the start date and manually keep > adjusting it until I hit the finish date I need. It was working fine until > I added the resources and now it will change the duration on a couple of task > when I set the start date on Task #1. > > I'm so frustrated... isn't there a way to 1) truly lock down the duration > and 2) list resources without it trying to list any scheduled/actual > time/hours? This should be so simple. Sigh... > > Melinda > > As
From: mdoster on 21 Apr 2010 16:18 Thanks! I'll check on that... "C" wrote: > Hello Melinda, > > I have entered in the scenario you describe below. It must be the non > working (vacation days) you have entered for your resources. I set the start > date for task 1 and entered a non working day during the task time span and > indeed the task duration increased. Look at the tasks that are adding > duration and see if there is non working time set for these tasks. > > Also go to help and search on task types. Select the about task types to > see how Project makes its calculations. > > "mdoster" wrote: > > > Ok... it's me again - brand new user... > > > > I need to list resources (sometimes multiple) for each task, but ONLY show > > it shows up on a report for each person. We do not assign or track > > real/actaul hours. So here's what I've done to try to simplify... > > Task #1: Tasks/Advanced Tab: "Must Start On" with a start date (this is > > the only constraint I've set in the project); Fixed Duration; Effort Driven > > unchecked > > All other tasks have the same settings except no constraint date and default > > to "As Soon as Possible." > > > > Each Resource: Booking type - Proposed; Type - Work; Change Working Time - > > I've added in their vacation days; $0 per hour > > > > So my project is set up so that I set the start date and manually keep > > adjusting it until I hit the finish date I need. It was working fine until > > I added the resources and now it will change the duration on a couple of task > > when I set the start date on Task #1. > > > > I'm so frustrated... isn't there a way to 1) truly lock down the duration > > and 2) list resources without it trying to list any scheduled/actual > > time/hours? This should be so simple. Sigh... > > > > Melinda > > > > As
From: mdoster on 21 Apr 2010 17:24 It appears you were correct. I deleted all the Non-Working (Vacation time) i had scheduled for all the resources. Now no durations are shifting..... guess I'll have to manually adjust for vacations... What fun! (MS Project does not impress me.) Thanks so much for your speedy assistance! I appreciate it! "C" wrote: > Hello Melinda, > > I have entered in the scenario you describe below. It must be the non > working (vacation days) you have entered for your resources. I set the start > date for task 1 and entered a non working day during the task time span and > indeed the task duration increased. Look at the tasks that are adding > duration and see if there is non working time set for these tasks. > > Also go to help and search on task types. Select the about task types to > see how Project makes its calculations. > > "mdoster" wrote: > > > Ok... it's me again - brand new user... > > > > I need to list resources (sometimes multiple) for each task, but ONLY show > > it shows up on a report for each person. We do not assign or track > > real/actaul hours. So here's what I've done to try to simplify... > > Task #1: Tasks/Advanced Tab: "Must Start On" with a start date (this is > > the only constraint I've set in the project); Fixed Duration; Effort Driven > > unchecked > > All other tasks have the same settings except no constraint date and default > > to "As Soon as Possible." > > > > Each Resource: Booking type - Proposed; Type - Work; Change Working Time - > > I've added in their vacation days; $0 per hour > > > > So my project is set up so that I set the start date and manually keep > > adjusting it until I hit the finish date I need. It was working fine until > > I added the resources and now it will change the duration on a couple of task > > when I set the start date on Task #1. > > > > I'm so frustrated... isn't there a way to 1) truly lock down the duration > > and 2) list resources without it trying to list any scheduled/actual > > time/hours? This should be so simple. Sigh... > > > > Melinda > > > > As
From: JulieS on 21 Apr 2010 19:01 Melinda, I think you are making this a bit more difficult than it needs be. There is no reason why you should adjust for vacations manually. Project cannot possibly keep the same dates with resources who have non-working time and you should allow Project to schedule around the non-working time. Set your tasks to Fixed Units. When you assign resources to tasks duration will not change, however the dates may change if the resource assigned to the task has non-working time during the scheduled dates for the task. You can watch your dates as you assign and decide to replace the resource with another resource who may have more working days in their schedule. Duration is always measured in working time -- if you assign a resource with a different working time (non-working), the duration value will stay the same. Also, why are you constraining the first task? It should start on the start date of the Project which you should set in Project > Project Information. I realize you are trying to get up and running quickly, but getting some training would likely pay off in spades with you better able to work with Project versus against it. If you do not have time for a two to three day training class, consider reading through Mike Glen's excellent series of free tutorials. You can find Mike tutorials at: http://project.mvps.org/mike%27s_tutorials.htm I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 4/21/2010 5:24 PM, mdoster wrote: > It appears you were correct. I deleted all the Non-Working (Vacation time) i > had scheduled for all the resources. Now no durations are shifting..... > guess I'll have to manually adjust for vacations... What fun! (MS Project > does not impress me.) > > Thanks so much for your speedy assistance! I appreciate it! > > > > "C" wrote: > >> Hello Melinda, >> >> I have entered in the scenario you describe below. It must be the non >> working (vacation days) you have entered for your resources. I set the start >> date for task 1 and entered a non working day during the task time span and >> indeed the task duration increased. Look at the tasks that are adding >> duration and see if there is non working time set for these tasks. >> >> Also go to help and search on task types. Select the about task types to >> see how Project makes its calculations. >> >> "mdoster" wrote: >> >>> Ok... it's me again - brand new user... >>> >>> I need to list resources (sometimes multiple) for each task, but ONLY show >>> it shows up on a report for each person. We do not assign or track >>> real/actaul hours. So here's what I've done to try to simplify... >>> Task #1: Tasks/Advanced Tab: "Must Start On" with a start date (this is >>> the only constraint I've set in the project); Fixed Duration; Effort Driven >>> unchecked >>> All other tasks have the same settings except no constraint date and default >>> to "As Soon as Possible." >>> >>> Each Resource: Booking type - Proposed; Type - Work; Change Working Time - >>> I've added in their vacation days; $0 per hour >>> >>> So my project is set up so that I set the start date and manually keep >>> adjusting it until I hit the finish date I need. It was working fine until >>> I added the resources and now it will change the duration on a couple of task >>> when I set the start date on Task #1. >>> >>> I'm so frustrated... isn't there a way to 1) truly lock down the duration >>> and 2) list resources without it trying to list any scheduled/actual >>> time/hours? This should be so simple. Sigh... >>> >>> Melinda >>> >>> As
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