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From: Howard Brazee on 20 Sep 2006 14:15 On 20 Sep 2006 10:51:03 -0700, "Alistair" <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Sorry that I could not help further. Is the young staff sergeant/police >officer syndrome the same one where the guy who loads the waste bin on >to the back of the dust cart is deemed to be a "waste disposal >engineer"? ie job title inflation. I notice you don't have privates in >the army but that everyone is a "specialist". It's interesting that the opposite trend occurred with general officers. At one time, the title of each general officer described his function. In Washington's time, people knew what a general's specialty was by his title. It was closer to the way we have titles in business today. One didn't need to rise through the ranks to run the Army's supply lines. Now rank is more of a pay grade with authority. A room that says "Private" on it can be entered by generals. A room that says "General Admission" on it can be entered by privates.
From: on 20 Sep 2006 14:41 In article <1158774662.910290.181790(a)d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> In article <1158706861.008406.85620(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >> Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> >> There are military offices in the building in which I now work and >> sometimes I'll see a four-, five- or six-stripe Air Force Sergeant (Staff >> Sergeant, Technical Sergeant or Master Sergeant, respectively) on the >> elevator... seems like folks are earning rank at a younger age every year. >> > >Sorry that I could not help further. One does what one does, Mr Maclean... your assistance, in this instance, has been worth at least double what I've offered to pay for it. >Is the young staff sergeant/police >officer syndrome the same one where the guy who loads the waste bin on >to the back of the dust cart is deemed to be a "waste disposal >engineer"? ie job title inflation. Not that I believe, no. Advancement in rank in the Air Force is governed by a variety of things, not the least of which are Time In Service and Time In Grade. The enlisted grades that I recall being taught were things like: E-1: Airman (one stripe, blue star in the middle) E-2: Airman First Class (two stripes, blue star in the middle) E-3: Senior Airman (three stripes, blue star in the middle) (noncommissioned officers) E-4: Sergeant (three stripes, white star in the middle) E-5: Staff Sergeant (four stripes, white star) E-6: Technical Sergeant (five stripes, white star) E-7: Master Sergeant (five stripes down, one stripe up, white star) E-8: Senior Master Sergeant (five down, two up, white star) E-9: Chief Master Sergeant (five down, three up, white star) E-10: Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force (five down, three up, white star flanked by wings) The Air Force did not make use of the Warrant Officer grades (W1 - W4); I believe the Army did for helicopter pilots... but the commissioned officers were: O-1: Second Lieutenant (yellow bar) O-2: First Lieutenant (silver bar) O-3: Captain (two silver bars connected by smaller bars) (senior officers) O-4: Major (bronze oak leaf) O-5: Lieutenant Colonel (silver oak leaf) O-6: Colonel (silver eagle) O-7: Brigadier General (silver star) O-8: Major General (two silver stars) O-9: Lieutenant General (three silver stars) O-10: General (four silver stars) O-11: General of the Air Force (five silver stars in a circle, a wartime rank which was held only by Henry H. 'Hap' Arnold, the 'Father of the Air Force') .... but this was a few decades ago; my memory is, admittedly, porous and things might have changed in the meanwhile. >I notice you don't have privates in >the army but that everyone is a "specialist". I am not as familiar with Army rankings but I believe that a Specialist is an E-4 grade, between Private First Class (one stripe and a 'rocker') and a Corporal (also an E-4 but considered a noncommissioned officer). (also of note is the use of the same label - 'Captain' - for Army, Air Force and Marine Corps officers of O-3 grade and a Navy officer of O-6 grade... which the other forces call 'Colonel') DD
From: on 20 Sep 2006 14:46 In article <us03h2dunrqk7rlqjk19jog80v8bv3eb2d(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On 20 Sep 2006 10:51:03 -0700, "Alistair" ><alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>Sorry that I could not help further. Is the young staff sergeant/police >>officer syndrome the same one where the guy who loads the waste bin on >>to the back of the dust cart is deemed to be a "waste disposal >>engineer"? ie job title inflation. I notice you don't have privates in >>the army but that everyone is a "specialist". > >It's interesting that the opposite trend occurred with general >officers. At one time, the title of each general officer described >his function. The mnemonic we were taught was 'Be My Little General': Brigadier General (one star) Major General (two stars) Lieutenant General (three stars) General (four stars) The 'General/Admiral of the Army/Armies/Navy/Air Force', five stars in a circle, was a rank invented to impress officers of other nations with whom the USA had to perform jointly. DD
From: Howard Brazee on 20 Sep 2006 15:00 > > .. but it was fun while it lasted! > > > > > OCOPY likes DD names, not datasets names. Allocate the input and output > datasets, and then it's > > OCOPY INDD(ddname) OUTDD(ddname). > > Of course, SMCOPY is FAR superior, but that requires the IBM session > manager up and running. And now, for the full monty, in Rexxspeak: "Alloc f(inn) DA(junk) SHR" "DEL JUNK2" "Alloc F(out) DA(junk2) NEW LIKE(JUNK)" "OCOPY INDD(inn) OUTDD(out) CONVERT((BPXFX311)) FROM1047" "FREE F(inn out)" This works, I have just tested it. Mickey
From: Howard Brazee on 20 Sep 2006 15:01
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: >The mnemonic we were taught was 'Be My Little General': > >Brigadier General (one star) >Major General (two stars) >Lieutenant General (three stars) >General (four stars) > >The 'General/Admiral of the Army/Armies/Navy/Air Force', five stars in a >circle, was a rank invented to impress officers of other nations with whom >the USA had to perform jointly. > >DD Not counting George Washington, back when the ranks were titles. |