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From: Androcles on 15 Jun 2010 17:06

"harmony" <aka(a)hotmail> wrote in message
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| hanson, all smart people agree with einstein.
| have you ever seen uncle al disagreeing with einstein?


Schwartz is to smart like rowing is to Queen Mary II, you don't have
both oars in the water.
Smart mouth, maybe, the rest is rocks in the head. 1 kg diamonds...

From: Myself, PresentContinuouslyTenseMallu on 16 Jun 2010 01:45
On 6/15/2010 2:06 PM, Androcles wrote:
>
> "harmony"<aka(a)hotmail> wrote in message
> news:4c17cfeb$0$11821$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net...
> | hanson, all smart people agree with einstein.
> | have you ever seen uncle al disagreeing with einstein?
>
>
> Schwartz is to smart like rowing is to Queen Mary II, you don't have
> both oars in the water.
> Smart mouth, maybe, the rest is rocks in the head. 1 kg diamonds...
>

No rocks. Just a vast void.
From: Koobee Wublee on 17 Jun 2010 03:35
On Jun 16, 11:14 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Jun 17, 3:29 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > I thought all India was behind the British Empire the destroyer of
> > many great civilizations on earth including India and China. The
> > plundering of India is obvious.
>
> There were two stages - of the plundering East India Company and the
> British Empire. Briefly, the former did bad and the latter did a lot
> of good. The British empire united India and brought common
> administration, law, military, university education, technology,
> roads, new foodstyles, safety, absence of famine... Had a vote been
> taken, they would have won hands down. Elderly people still say how
> good and great the Raj was.

Hmmm... After the brits have plundered all the wealth to further
their agenda of civilization destruction throughout the world, these
villains all of sudden become beneficiaries by teaching the
impoverished locals how to prosper again for another round of
plundering, is that right?

> In China, these drug dealers had to
>
> > fight a couple of wars to gain rights to sell opium (narcotics) into
> > China in which at that time frame China boasted the biggest middle
> > class population in terms of numbers as well as the percentage.
> > Achieving a point-blank advantage, Hitler should have just wiped away
> > these fuckers on the beaches of Dunkirk. <shrug>

<shrug>

> > Anybody is free to honor any hero of his wish. That includes the
> > Einstein Dingleberries. They are free to worship Einstein the nitwit,
> > the plagiarist, and the liar as a god if that is what they want.
> > <shrug>
>
> > I don't think Hitler had a choice. His great intelligence networks in
> > USSR at that time was indicating an imminent massive strike by Stalin
> > in July of 1941. A good indication is that all Soviet troops except
> > the Siberians under Zhukov were deployed right at the border. On top
> > of that, the number of Soviet troops involved at the time is still a
> > top secret. Also, a good indication of an imminent strike is the
> > number of planes and tanks. The Soviets dwarfed the Germans by quite
> > a bit during Operation Barbarossa.
>
> Isn't this nonsense?

I don't think so if you understand military theory. <shrug>

> Germany struck at Russia because they wanted oil
> and a land route to India.

That is nonsense. The Ploesti oil fields in Romania pretty much
satisfy the needs. Just how do you think the Germans were able to
carry on with the war for that many years without any outside help
anyway?

> Stalin wasn't expecting an attack.

Of course, not. He was expecting to be the attacker to spread
Stalinism throughout Europe and finally the world. <shrug>

> If he
> had, the Germans could not have advanced that rapidly and not been
> able to strike such stunning blows.

<shrug> Stalin did not. So, your point is utterly irrelevant.
<shrug>

> > I personally think any Stalinist regimes ought to be wiped out on the
> > surface of the earth regardless of any economic enterprises. <shrug>
>
> Stalinism and socialism are entirely different.

You are correct. That does not justify the proliferation of the
tyranny known as Stalinism, do you?

> > Same thing happened in Germany, Japan, Taiwan, China, and other
> > conquered territories by the Japanese. There were millions of people
> > starved to death. According to the historian David Irving, 1M German
> > civilians perished during the war, 3M during the expulsions from
> > Poland and other places, and another 10M between '45 to '48. The
> > Japanese and the Taiwanese (being considered as a main island of
> > Japan) probably suffered half of that.
>
> Yes but they recovered after WW2.

So, are you saying the Germans and the Japanese are superior than the
Bengalis?

> Bengalis face hostility to this
> day, are are screwed in every way possible as Hitler and the Japanese
> apparently had high regard for them.

The Germans and the Japanese had to say 'yes, sir' to the allies from
then on. <shrug>

> > It is interesting that the Taiwanese were fully supportive of Japan
> > despite themselves being ethnically Chinese. Naturally, they got
> > punished for losing the war. Some places in China chose Japan as the
> > least of the three evils including Chiang Kai-Shek and Mao Tse-Tong.
> > They were right, and they got punished as well.
>
> > So, the Bengalis were not alone. The war was not about right or wrong
> > but a typical power struggle among vicious empires. Naturally, the
> > history repeats itself that the people caught between also suffered.
>
> As I said, the Bengalis (or more generally, Eastern Indians) face
> hostility to this day. They are most certainly alone, and they have
> their own unique world-view.

They just have to learn to live among their neighbors then. Don't we
all have with the same problems? <shrug>

> > I don't think so. The Germans suffered the most --- not only in terms
> > of the number of people perished AFTER THE WAR but also intellectual
> > properties.
>
> Germany gained a lot from the US after losing the war, and became
> prosperous and advanced.

Are you saying the Germans are way superior just like what the
accusations of the allies as a derogatory remark. You know the master-
race-nonsense thing. <shrug>

> The persecution of Bengalis by the rest of the world is an unique and
> persistent phenomenon, as Bengalis (or more generally, Eastern
> Indians) are the only Aryans left on the planet.

Wow! It is the mythical Aryan thing of trying to be racially superior
to your neighboring tribes. Let me tell you a secret. Your
neighboring tribes are still practicing cannibalism till this day.
<wink and shrug>

> It is only in Bengal
> that my original work on physics including the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
> could be published in print, though other Indian papers took it up.

Good for you. <shrug>

> It is only in Bengal that I could get the initial recognition for my
> work - the rest of the planet is corrupt or cowed down.

Sounds like you find an Alice-in-Wonderland in Bengal where all your
wishes can come true. <shrug>

> > Nonsense. Einstein was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. The
> > nitwit was nobody.
>
> Well that is not what the world says. All the textbooks are in full
> praise of Einstein, and the entire physics of the last 100 years is
> based upon his e=mcc.

That is actually a very correct, good, and scientifically sound
observation. I can hardly disagree with you in that, BUT EINSTEIN WAS
STILL A NITWIT, A PLAGIARIST, AND A LIAR. It is all in the
mathematics and the subjects involved. <shrgu>

> He was the one who postulated the constancy of
> the speed of light,

No, Maxwell was the one who did so. However, the constancy in that
case only applied to the stationary background of the Aether. This is
all in the classical studies of electromagnetism and Maxwell's
equations. <shrug>

After the null result of the MMX (actually Michelson's solo 1871
experiment as a gray area of timeline), Voigt was the first to apply
Maxwell's constancy in the speed of light in the absolute frame of
reference to all frames of references. <shrug>

> and that is the basis of all SR and GR.

Yes. That does not mean SR and GR are correct or valid in Professor
Roberts' library of "correct" vocabularies.

There are an infinite numbers of transforms other than the Voigt and
the Lorentz transforms that also explain the null results of the MMX
with the constancy in the speed of light applied to all frames of
references not just Maxwell's in the absolute one. <shrug>

> He also
> bungled about the quantum theory, by basing the photoelectric effect
> upon it, and for that he got the Nobel Prize.

So, Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar got a Nobel
Prize plagiarizing after Planck's work. <shrug>

> It is just dishonest to
> call him a nitwit, plagiarist and liar

No, it is a dishonest not to call Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. <shrug>

> when really he was a brilliant
> bungler.

Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar was nobody. <shrug>

> To this day Einstein is most highly regarded by the entire
> scientific establishment, and the media and all the politicians or
> whoever important consider him the highest standard in scientific
> brilliance.

That is correct. To this day, Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist,
and the liar is worshipped as a god by the self-styled physicists, and
that does not mean Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar
is indeed a god. <shrug>

> In Star Trek series, he is given god-like status...

In any fairy tales, anyone can achieve godhood including Einstein the
nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar. <shrug>

> > Nonsense again. None of what is credited to Einstein the nitwit, the
> > plagiarist, and the liar came out Einstein the same nitwit, the same
> > plagiarist, and the same liar. ]
>
> Huh? All modern physics is based upon the constancy of the speed of
> light c, as independent upon the velocity of what transmits it.

That is correct, and it was Maxwell/Voigt who fist proposed that.
<shrug>

> It
> was this first postulate that made Einstein so great to the modern
> world,

Voigt should be the one credited with that. <shrug>

> and it is upon this that e=mcc is based.

The equations (E = m c^2 / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)) cannot be properly
derived (and thus non-convoluted) without the Lagrangian Method
without the geodesic equations involved. SR lead to no (E = m c^2).
It is a total myth that Einstein was the one doing all that. The
forensic evidence is all in the very mathematics involved luckily for
the historian in this case. <shrug>

> Which the world today
> understands as the source of all energy formations,

Since it is based on the geodesic equations, all theses infinite
transforms (that do not satisfy the principle of relativity) all
arrive at the same result of (E = m c^2 where E and m are the observed
energy and mass). <shrug>

> as it destructively links energy with mass.

Yes. <shrug>

> The sun produces its energy
> from fusion with loss of its mass - as a result of very high
> temperatures in the core.

Yes, for elements with atomic number of iron or less. <shrug>

> This is the standard theory taught in
> texts!

That is correct, but the history behind that is all fucked up.
<shrug>

> Without e=mcc, they had a tough time explaining the energy
> from radioactivity.

Yes, once again, but that does not mean it was Einstein the nitwit,
the plagiarist, and the liar who derived it. In fact, the same nitwit
made a series of mathematical blunder to arrive at that proving the
liar was indeed a plagiarist after knowing what the answer should be
(already derived by Lorentz and others). <shrug>

> Then they formed a law to cover that, the law of
> conservation of mass and energy.

The conservation law of mass and energy is not universal. It also is
dictated by the geodesic equation associated with the temporal
dimension. In general, even these mundane and fundamental quantities
do not have to be conserved. It is all in the mathematics of the
Lagrangian Method developed close to 300 years ago. <shrug>

> All this is well know history!

That is right. Luckily, in this particular subject in history, one
can use mathematics as a forensic tool. <shrug>

> Who can deny that??

Those who cannot understand the mathematics involved. <shrug>

> <shrug>

<shrug>

> Yes. My being of Bengali background (actually I am a Bihari, being
> born and brought up in Bihar) is such a hindrance, isn't it?

You have to forgive me for not knowing all shades of Bengalis.
Honestly, all Bengalis look the same to me. Telling you otherwise
would be lying on my part. <shrug>

> Nobody wants to listen!

Keeping all these nonsense up, even the ever so humble yours truly
would have to turn my back on you. My time is ever very valuable.
<shrug>

> They don't have the guts.

It is your opinion. <shrug>
From: harmony on 17 Jun 2010 15:37

"Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wublee(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9440c85a-6ed5-4a25-80a6-f556166f2081(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 16, 11:14 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 3:29 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
>> > I thought all India was behind the British Empire the destroyer of
>> > many great civilizations on earth including India and China. The
>> > plundering of India is obvious.
>>
>> There were two stages - of the plundering East India Company and the
>> British Empire. Briefly, the former did bad and the latter did a lot
>> of good. The British empire united India and brought common
>> administration, law, military, university education, technology,
>> roads, new foodstyles, safety, absence of famine... Had a vote been
>> taken, they would have won hands down. Elderly people still say how
>> good and great the Raj was.
>
> Hmmm... After the brits have plundered all the wealth to further
> their agenda of civilization destruction throughout the world, these
> villains all of sudden become beneficiaries by teaching the
> impoverished locals how to prosper again for another round of
> plundering, is that right?
>


bengal, with a great past civilization, is now one totally messed up place.
historically, most of it got converted into mohamadism - witness bangladesh.
the indian bengal is 25pct islamic. then the brits strangulated it (like
they did the rest of india), and now it is controlled by commies. the
eastern side is controlled by kirastani convert rebels (funded in part from
rogue western churches, including german too!) who are always busy plotting
sneak attacks on indian army soldiers. and now there is an embattled maoist
insurgency (which has already undone nepal).

communism perhaps is dead in russia, east europe and elsewhere. but in
bengal it is thriving. strikes are routine, violence and intimidation order
of the day and brainwashing of students in schools total.

poor arindam has that stockholm syndrome. he hates mahatma gandhi because
brown indian commies hated mahatma. he loves british empire because commies
loved british empire (being a russian ally). he loves muslims because
commies love muslims. he cusses hindus because brown bengali commies
habitually cuss at hindus.



>> In China, these drug dealers had to
>>
>> > fight a couple of wars to gain rights to sell opium (narcotics) into
>> > China in which at that time frame China boasted the biggest middle
>> > class population in terms of numbers as well as the percentage.
>> > Achieving a point-blank advantage, Hitler should have just wiped away
>> > these fuckers on the beaches of Dunkirk. <shrug>
>
> <shrug>
>
>> > Anybody is free to honor any hero of his wish. That includes the
>> > Einstein Dingleberries. They are free to worship Einstein the nitwit,
>> > the plagiarist, and the liar as a god if that is what they want.
>> > <shrug>
>>
>> > I don't think Hitler had a choice. His great intelligence networks in
>> > USSR at that time was indicating an imminent massive strike by Stalin
>> > in July of 1941. A good indication is that all Soviet troops except
>> > the Siberians under Zhukov were deployed right at the border. On top
>> > of that, the number of Soviet troops involved at the time is still a
>> > top secret. Also, a good indication of an imminent strike is the
>> > number of planes and tanks. The Soviets dwarfed the Germans by quite
>> > a bit during Operation Barbarossa.
>>
>> Isn't this nonsense?
>
> I don't think so if you understand military theory. <shrug>
>

well acclaimed books that i have read say that barbarosa was mainly because
of hitler's deep seated hatred of commies (in whom hitler saw the jews down
to the last man, supposedly the saboteurs of german value system).
the operation was undertaken against the advice of hitler's own generals who
did not want a two-front war, specially when russia wasn't yet a threat, in
fact an "ally" of hitler willing to supply hitler war materiel.
this was the beginning of the end of nazi regime.
the above is the assessment of the american historians. i suspect yours is a
view from the german side.


>> Germany struck at Russia because they wanted oil
>> and a land route to India.
>
> That is nonsense. The Ploesti oil fields in Romania pretty much
> satisfy the needs. Just how do you think the Germans were able to
> carry on with the war for that many years without any outside help
> anyway?
>
>> Stalin wasn't expecting an attack.
>
> Of course, not. He was expecting to be the attacker to spread
> Stalinism throughout Europe and finally the world. <shrug>
>
>> If he
>> had, the Germans could not have advanced that rapidly and not been
>> able to strike such stunning blows.
>
> <shrug> Stalin did not. So, your point is utterly irrelevant.
> <shrug>
>
>> > I personally think any Stalinist regimes ought to be wiped out on the
>> > surface of the earth regardless of any economic enterprises. <shrug>
>>
>> Stalinism and socialism are entirely different.
>
> You are correct. That does not justify the proliferation of the
> tyranny known as Stalinism, do you?
>


commie heroes are worshipped in bengal.
in tamil nad, its anti-hindu chief minister named his son stalin (to make a
statement to the hindus).
in dynasty-democrazy of india, stalin will be the next chief minister after
his 85 yr dad kicks the bucket.
(just like raul gandhi is ramming down his way to be the pm).


>> > Same thing happened in Germany, Japan, Taiwan, China, and other
>> > conquered territories by the Japanese. There were millions of people
>> > starved to death. According to the historian David Irving, 1M German
>> > civilians perished during the war, 3M during the expulsions from
>> > Poland and other places, and another 10M between '45 to '48. The
>> > Japanese and the Taiwanese (being considered as a main island of
>> > Japan) probably suffered half of that.
>>
>> Yes but they recovered after WW2.
>
> So, are you saying the Germans and the Japanese are superior than the
> Bengalis?
>

do you know of any communist country that has or can advance well? (china is
not communist in its character for a long time)
(snipped the rest, for it drains you to keep up with commie stuff)



From: Arindam Banerjee on 17 Jun 2010 19:00
On Jun 17, 5:35 pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 11:14 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> > On Jun 17, 3:29 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > > I thought all India was behind the British Empire the destroyer of
> > > many great civilizations on earth including India and China.  The
> > > plundering of India is obvious.
>
> > There were two stages - of the plundering East India Company and the
> > British Empire.  Briefly, the former did bad and the latter did a lot
> > of good.  The British empire united India and brought common
> > administration, law, military, university education, technology,
> > roads, new foodstyles, safety, absence of famine... Had a vote been
> > taken, they would have won hands down.  Elderly people still say how
> > good and great the Raj was.
>
> Hmmm...  After the brits have plundered all the wealth to further
> their agenda of civilization destruction throughout the world, these
> villains all of sudden become beneficiaries by teaching the
> impoverished locals how to prosper again for another round of
> plundering, is that right?
>
> >  In China, these drug dealers had to
>
> > > fight a couple of wars to gain rights to sell opium (narcotics) into
> > > China in which at that time frame China boasted the biggest middle
> > > class population in terms of numbers as well as the percentage.
> > > Achieving a point-blank advantage, Hitler should have just wiped away
> > > these fuckers on the beaches of Dunkirk.  <shrug>
>
> <shrug>
>
> > > Anybody is free to honor any hero of his wish.  That includes the
> > > Einstein Dingleberries.  They are free to worship Einstein the nitwit,
> > > the plagiarist, and the liar as a god if that is what they want.
> > > <shrug>
>
> > > I don't think Hitler had a choice.  His great intelligence networks in
> > > USSR at that time was indicating an imminent massive strike by Stalin
> > > in July of 1941.  A good indication is that all Soviet troops except
> > > the Siberians under Zhukov were deployed right at the border.  On top
> > > of that, the number of Soviet troops involved at the time is still a
> > > top secret.  Also, a good indication of an imminent strike is the
> > > number of planes and tanks.  The Soviets dwarfed the Germans by quite
> > > a bit during Operation Barbarossa.
>
> > Isn't this nonsense?
>
> I don't think so if you understand military theory.  

- snip -

Racists are worse than anything else.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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