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From: Kay on 20 Apr 2008 11:52
>> Kay wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> It seems no one here has had any experience with any of these
>> keyboards. I've kinda dropped the Oxygen off the shortlist anyway as
>> I just found out it lacks aftertouch (despite what the sales guys
>> claimed). I also found this M-Audio controller user group that just
>> confirms what I already know (the M-Audio stuff Axiom/Oxygen are well
>> supported): http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/M-Audio_Enigma/
>>
>> Sadly, I've found nothing on the EMU Xboard 61 so far (on the workflow
>> perspective). I doubt it can affect the workflow much given it's
>> relative paucity of control widgets but, it has a decent keyboard +
>> the Proteus soft synth so, I'd really like some comparative info
>> seeing as I could snag an extra VSTi, disk drive, or an upgraded
>> firewire audio interface for the difference in price... ;-)


> Sue Morton wrote:
> Hi Kay,
>
> Sorry I couldn't help, I use a Yamaha Motif ES-88 and even lug it around
> occasionally (100+ lbs without the case!). That's why I asked for more
> particulars, hoping someone would be in a similar situation as what you
> described and could give you information.
>
> However, your opening post mentions asking about the keyboards with
> respect to "how they help with workflow". Since this is such an
> individual preference and there are as many ways to do it as are opinions
> on how to do it :-), it's a bit vague what you're looking for?
>
> What interactions with Sonar and workflow are you concerned about?
> Perhaps if we can pin it down someone can help you further.

Hi Sue,

I guess I just wanted to know to what extent the widgets on the various
keyboards reduces the need to reach for the keyboard/mouse for typical use
cases. I'm still feeling my way around to find an optimal working
arrangement so, I may be worrying needlessly. Right now, I'm stuck with
multiple DAWs (was SONAR + some FL Studio until you guys convinced me Reaper
was worth a shot too!) so I'm on the lookout for anything that eases the
pain of using the various DAWs for common use cases.

I tried using an MO6 as the controller but gave that up real quick (it works
well as just a keyboard controller but added zilch to the workflow). Will
probably plop for the Axiom given it has more widgets, better vendor/user
support than the others and, it is well supported by my fav box-o-tricks -
Reason. I had my sights sets on the CME UF7 too initially (the extra keys
would be useful) but I can't find the buggers anywhere and the newer UF70
seems to offer less but costs more?

Kay

From: Sue Morton on 20 Apr 2008 13:54
What does "common use cases" mean for you? Can you elaborate on what you
most often do? I'm not sure there's a standard :-)

Have you looked at control surface interfaces instead of doing everything
from a keyboard? My space is arranged so I can easily reach either one.
Something to consider if you have the $$$ and the room to accomodate both.
If you have an existing keyboard you like you might look to add a control
surface instead of a new keyboard?
--
Sue Morton

Kay wrote:
> I guess I just wanted to know to what extent the widgets on the
> various keyboards reduces the need to reach for the keyboard/mouse
> for typical use cases. I'm still feeling my way around to find an
> optimal working arrangement so, I may be worrying needlessly. Right
> now, I'm stuck with multiple DAWs (was SONAR + some FL Studio until
> you guys convinced me Reaper was worth a shot too!) so I'm on the
> lookout for anything that eases the pain of using the various DAWs
> for common use cases.
> I tried using an MO6 as the controller but gave that up real quick
> (it works well as just a keyboard controller but added zilch to the
> workflow). Will probably plop for the Axiom given it has more
> widgets, better vendor/user support than the others and, it is well
> supported by my fav box-o-tricks - Reason. I had my sights sets on
> the CME UF7 too initially (the extra keys would be useful) but I
> can't find the buggers anywhere and the newer UF70 seems to offer
> less but costs more?
> Kay


From: Kay on 20 Apr 2008 21:45
Hi Sue,

> Have you looked at control surface interfaces instead of doing everything
> from a keyboard? My space is arranged so I can easily reach either one.
> Something to consider if you have the $$$ and the room to accommodate
> both.
> If you have an existing keyboard you like you might look to add a control
> surface instead of a new keyboard?

Control surfaces?.

**waddles off to Google**

Aha!. They sound like what I was describing with the workflow comments. The
Tascam FX1xxx series look interesting (as does the M-Audio ProjectMix). I'd
still rather have one that was integrated into a controller keyboard. As it
is, I don't think either of those will fit into my work triangle (ok, on my
desk)....

Hs anyone here used the AlphaTrack single (or other single fader) control
surface controllers?. With SONAR? (also interested in FL Studio, Reason and
Reaper)

Any other recommendations?. I do much more recording/editing than mixing if
that
helps to narrow the field.

Thanks

Kay

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