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From: Nico Coesel on 21 May 2010 08:29 Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT), the renowned Greegor ><greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>I was not promoting any of the FIVE software >>packages or services, or the one you posted. >> >>http://www.fixyourdesktop.com/index.php/2007/06/5-best-ebay-sniping-tools >> >>I have never USED any of them. >> >>A few years ago they were kind of a secret >>but I noticed their behavior. >> >>Somebody else mentioned that some of them >>use special servers to control the timing >>more tightly. > >It's not important at all, IMHO, for anyone with normal decent >broadband service. The only requirement on the timing is that it be so >close to the ending time that Joe idiot can't _react_ to the 'outbid' >status. Aside from that, it's actually slightly to your benefit to be >a bit _earlier_, since if the difference is less than a bid increment >the lower and earlier bid will stand. IOW, if you bid $243.50 3 >seconds before the end, and another person bids $247.50 a couple of >seconds later, you'll win, since his bid did not exceed yours by the >bid increment. Are you sure about that? AFAIK the highest price depends on the actual maximum bid. Even in your scenario I'm very sure the one bidding $247.50 is going to be the highest bidder. -- Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... nico(a)nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Capt. Cave Man on 21 May 2010 09:00 On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:29:05 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: >Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT), the renowned Greegor >><greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>I was not promoting any of the FIVE software >>>packages or services, or the one you posted. >>> >>>http://www.fixyourdesktop.com/index.php/2007/06/5-best-ebay-sniping-tools >>> >>>I have never USED any of them. >>> >>>A few years ago they were kind of a secret >>>but I noticed their behavior. >>> >>>Somebody else mentioned that some of them >>>use special servers to control the timing >>>more tightly. >> >>It's not important at all, IMHO, for anyone with normal decent >>broadband service. The only requirement on the timing is that it be so >>close to the ending time that Joe idiot can't _react_ to the 'outbid' >>status. Aside from that, it's actually slightly to your benefit to be >>a bit _earlier_, since if the difference is less than a bid increment >>the lower and earlier bid will stand. IOW, if you bid $243.50 3 >>seconds before the end, and another person bids $247.50 a couple of >>seconds later, you'll win, since his bid did not exceed yours by the >>bid increment. > >Are you sure about that? AFAIK the highest price depends on the actual >maximum bid. Even in your scenario I'm very sure the one bidding >$247.50 is going to be the highest bidder. The auction used to end with the LAST bid. Now, they always end with an auto-bid. Any of you dopes that have never experienced last minute bidding will never be able to grasp what its purpose was. Probably because of that bent auto-bid mentality you likely have.
From: Rich Webb on 21 May 2010 09:00 On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:29:05 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: >Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT), the renowned Greegor >><greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>I was not promoting any of the FIVE software >>>packages or services, or the one you posted. >>> >>>http://www.fixyourdesktop.com/index.php/2007/06/5-best-ebay-sniping-tools >>> >>>I have never USED any of them. >>> >>>A few years ago they were kind of a secret >>>but I noticed their behavior. >>> >>>Somebody else mentioned that some of them >>>use special servers to control the timing >>>more tightly. >> >>It's not important at all, IMHO, for anyone with normal decent >>broadband service. The only requirement on the timing is that it be so >>close to the ending time that Joe idiot can't _react_ to the 'outbid' >>status. Aside from that, it's actually slightly to your benefit to be >>a bit _earlier_, since if the difference is less than a bid increment >>the lower and earlier bid will stand. IOW, if you bid $243.50 3 >>seconds before the end, and another person bids $247.50 a couple of >>seconds later, you'll win, since his bid did not exceed yours by the >>bid increment. > >Are you sure about that? AFAIK the highest price depends on the actual >maximum bid. Even in your scenario I'm very sure the one bidding >$247.50 is going to be the highest bidder. It's been a while since I was on but, IIRC, for a bid to be accepted it must be at least the minimum increment above the current high bid. Else, they'd probably be swamped by end-of-bid rushes that are 0.01 (or 0.03 or whatever) over the previously accepted high bid. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: Capt. Cave Man on 21 May 2010 09:12 On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:00:14 -0400, Rich Webb <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: >On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:29:05 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: > >>Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT), the renowned Greegor >>><greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>I was not promoting any of the FIVE software >>>>packages or services, or the one you posted. >>>> >>>>http://www.fixyourdesktop.com/index.php/2007/06/5-best-ebay-sniping-tools >>>> >>>>I have never USED any of them. >>>> >>>>A few years ago they were kind of a secret >>>>but I noticed their behavior. >>>> >>>>Somebody else mentioned that some of them >>>>use special servers to control the timing >>>>more tightly. >>> >>>It's not important at all, IMHO, for anyone with normal decent >>>broadband service. The only requirement on the timing is that it be so >>>close to the ending time that Joe idiot can't _react_ to the 'outbid' >>>status. Aside from that, it's actually slightly to your benefit to be >>>a bit _earlier_, since if the difference is less than a bid increment >>>the lower and earlier bid will stand. IOW, if you bid $243.50 3 >>>seconds before the end, and another person bids $247.50 a couple of >>>seconds later, you'll win, since his bid did not exceed yours by the >>>bid increment. >> >>Are you sure about that? AFAIK the highest price depends on the actual >>maximum bid. Even in your scenario I'm very sure the one bidding >>$247.50 is going to be the highest bidder. > >It's been a while since I was on but, IIRC, for a bid to be accepted it >must be at least the minimum increment above the current high bid. Else, >they'd probably be swamped by end-of-bid rushes that are 0.01 (or 0.03 >or whatever) over the previously accepted high bid. Dumbass. One bids the minimum bid PLUS $0.01 added to that to throw off the other bidders' increments. I like Sigourney's line the best... "Did IQs suddenly drop while I was away...?" --Ripley, Aliens
From: Don Klipstein on 21 May 2010 18:30
In article <qtsbv5hfistha39qleh6smv3tfcp0jsuhl(a)4ax.com>, Archimedes' Lever wrote: >On Thu, 20 May 2010 21:31:58 -0400, Spehro Pefhany ><speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>It's not important at all, IMHO, for anyone with normal decent >>broadband service. The only requirement on the timing is that it be so >>close to the ending time that Joe idiot can't _react_ to the 'outbid' > > That USED to be the way it worked. Now, the computerized bidding will >ALWAYS be the last bid. > > It really is sad. Ebay sucks as a result. In that event, eBay buying with sniping software (or by sniping manually - I think that is still do-able) becomes like a "sealed bid" event. Bidders don't know what their competitors will bid in the end, but merely learn afterwards what the highest bid was and maybe who it was by. As a result, in such an environment bidders bid the most they want to pay for what they are trying to buy. If 20 snipers are going to take their shots in one action, and at least some of them are aware of a multitude of fellow snipers, then there will be snipers shooting with the highest bid that they are willing to pay - their "honest maximum bid". It appears to me that the seller enjoys bids by bidders' "honest maximum bids". -- - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) |