From: Roger Johansson on

Terry Pinnell wrote:

> begin.) Anyway, can anyone please recommend some simple-to-use
> freeware that will let me perform some or all of these basic
> operations on the WMV file please:

> 1) Change the orientation, i.e. from landscape to portrait or vice
> versa
> 2) Remove unwanted sections, at least from start or beginning.
> 3) Edit the soundtrack
> 4) Convert the WMV to some more universal format like MPG.


There are two main ways to edit video.
Both use a frame server program to run the video.
The frameserver is invisible to the user of a graphical UI.
Some use scripting to control the frameserver and
the filters.

Others use more modern graphical interfaces to achieve the same thing.

The best video player is VLC from Videolan.
Virtualdub is a freeware video editing system.

The most basic video format seems to be AVI. You will
often need to convert a video to AVI before you can do
any editing.

Programs like AVI-splitter are useful, as are programs which
investigate videos and tells you what codecs are needed
and if you already have those codecs.
Gspot is such a program.

There are freeware converter programs from and to the AVI format.

I bought a video capture card for my computer many years ago,
connected it to my satellite dish and I could watch tv channels
from all over Europe in my computer, in a window or fullscreen.
I could capture video clips or still images with very high
technical quality, the signal was digital all the way.

The card has stopped working, but I still have the video editing
program it was delivered with, and it is also useful, but
a bit too old.
Some video editing software seems to assume that you have a video
capture card, but will work even without such a card.

Google for "video editing freeware tools" for example.
There are lots of free stuff around.
I just found a freeware soundtrack producer program that
looks promising.
http://www.daly.co.uk/iconic/programs/sp.html


--
Roger J.

From: Terry Pinnell on
"Kittie Spit" <Whip.Pan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>Have a look over at www.videohelp.com and afterdawn.com for freeware
>that might be able to help you do this.
>
>You MIGHT be able to do some of this with something like VirtualDub,
>[Don't think VDub will work with the formats you specify, tho].
>
>Sorry, I don't have any specific recommendations.

Roger, Kittie: Thanks, both.

First, I was mistaken about the format. My camera records an MPG file.

I've since made progress, although it has the downside that it uses
another program. I downloaded, installed and used the Rotate facility
in VirtualDubMod, which (unlike MM) *preserves* the aspect ratio. The
program looks very complex to me, but has done what I wanted. However,
the result is an AVI file, not MPG. How do I now convert that back to
MPG so that it can be handled in MM 2.0 please? My limited aim for
this initial 'movie' is simply to merge 3 separate MPG files together,
and maybe add some text.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
From: Terry Pinnell on
"Michael Laplante" <mike004(a)nowhere.net> wrote:

>If you're on Win XP, the free Windows Movie Maker uses WMV as its working
>format.
>
>Don't have a URL handy but a Google will turn it up easily. . .

Thanks. Yes, subsequently discovered MM, and have upgraded from v 1.1
to MM 2.0 (I can't use the latest, 2.1, as I'm staying with XP SP1 for
time being, following mishaps last time I attempted to install SP2).

See also my reply to Cari.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
From: Michael Laplante on
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin(a)dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:5olli15fe5vakns3ngi4fkomb48vj29ko4(a)4ax.com...
> "Michael Laplante" <mike004(a)nowhere.net> wrote:

> Anyway, a few hours ago the fruits of my posting (and extensive
> googling!) paid off, in the shape of some wizardry called an XML file.
> This was sent to me by Rehan, in the
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup, thread 'Rotating
> loses aspect ratio?', message
> news:0fvgi1tg1au14ltocbiugmp8d72co4uiv7(a)4ax.com

Yeah, his website features a number of creative files for MM. XML is simply
a type of HTML -- that's why you can "roll your own" special effects.
Somewhere on Microsoft's site is a tutorial on how to put together XML files
of your own, if you want to experiment with your own special effects.

> I'm using it without understanding it,

It's just a text file. Open it up and study it and you'll start to go
"Aaah."

For us amateurs, Pinnacle is probably the best bet BUT on some of the
forums, you'll read a lot of bad reviews of their products. I haven't
encountered these difficulties myself but YMMV. I use Studio 9 to extract
DVD content and to capture from my old analog tapes with their Dazzle 80
which captures to MPEG2 -- has excellent resolution. I don't use it for
editing extensively except to trim "fat" from some longer clips. All my
extensive editing is done in MM.

> 'MemoriesOnTV' (MoT), which I bought and rather like.

Yeah, I've played with this one on a trial basis. I eventually bought a
similar proggie called ProShow Gold.

> I'd be very interested to learn more about that, once I've mastered
> the really basic operations.

See my notes re the tutorial. I haven't done any myself, being the lazy sort
that I am. However, if you cruise the MM forums, you'll pick up sites like
Rehan's where they graciously offer up their filters for free.

Finally, get hold of Microsoft's Photo Story 3. It lets you produced slide
shows with pan and zoom effects, music, etc. much like MoT. These are saved
as WMV format which you can then import into MM. Your final MM will be a
combination of video, and dynamic photos -- very nice. (Possibly you may be
able to do the same with MoT anyway.)

M


From: Chief Suspect on
In article <1126781358.936023.253300(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
roger4911(a)gmail.com says...
>
> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>
> > begin.) Anyway, can anyone please recommend some simple-to-use
> > freeware that will let me perform some or all of these basic
> > operations on the WMV file please:
>
>=================================

You can't get much simpler than the freely provided MovieMaker
already comes with Win XP. I have easily trimmed off the
fronts, ends, or middle frames out of .WMV files many times.
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