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From: Thomas Heger on 14 Jul 2010 00:51 RichD schrieb: > On Jul 10, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Theories do not dictate observation, stupid. > > ahem > > "It is the theory which determines what we can observe." > - Albert Einstein > > And the old perfessor has a point. > It is left as an exercise for the student, to > decipher this enigmatic statement - > Well, we can make observations without any theory. E.g. we could see the sun - without knowing anything at all or having any kind of theory. But to measure something, we need definitions. And to have a good definition of something, this needs some kind of meaning. If we want to measure the power of the sun-beams for example, we would need definitions of power and some kind of theory, what that should be. E.g. we need to define units of an area, hence of length. We need an idea, what a Watt is and how to measure the wattage of a beam. Than we had to define 'sun-beam', to distinguish it from other phenomena. In the course of this process, we stepwise introduce our understanding of the world to our measurement. If the measurement is in agreement with our understanding, this makes us happy and we regard our theories to be proven. But we could have made several faults along the way. E.g. the basic unit of length could be not as constant as we think, what we could not measure, because this unit is basis of measurements. Or the sun could put out more than beams, but we don't see the other things, hence do not measure. So we could get seriously off the right track, if our theory is not as proper as it should be, because the theory is actually what we thinks is happening and we certainly need an idea first, before we would look for something. TH
From: Henry Wilson DSc on 14 Jul 2010 14:31 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:46:58 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:23:35 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nospam(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >>>[...] >>> >>>> We lie on the ourtskirts of the Milky Way. Average cosmic light is >>>> emitted from near the centres of galaxies and arrives at Earth at <c. It >>>> is further redshifted for that reason. >>> >>>So if you multiple the wavelength of light obtained by a diffraction >>>grating times the frequency of light obtained via a waveguide / bolometer, >>>you think it will show more than, less than, or exactly c? >> >> light...frequency...waveguide...bolometer....interesting > >Well, Henry? More, less, or exactly c? > >Make a stand. It isn't as if you have difficulty denying trivial >observations when it suits you, or lying about it. sorry eric, you have no scientific ability whatsoever. You have the mentality of a religious fanatic. > >> >> (: >> >> >> >> >> Henry Wilson... >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space. Henry Wilson... ........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
From: RichD on 14 Jul 2010 18:41 On Jul 10, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Theories do not dictate observation, stupid. "It is the theory which determines what we observe." - Albert Einstein And the old perfessor has a point. It is left as an exercise for the student, to decipher this enigmatic assertion. -- Rich
From: eric gisse on 14 Jul 2010 23:21 ...@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:46:58 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nospam(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:23:35 -0700, eric gisse >>> <jowr.pi.nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >>>>[...] >>>> >>>>> We lie on the ourtskirts of the Milky Way. Average cosmic light is >>>>> emitted from near the centres of galaxies and arrives at Earth at <c. >>>>> It is further redshifted for that reason. >>>> >>>>So if you multiple the wavelength of light obtained by a diffraction >>>>grating times the frequency of light obtained via a waveguide / >>>>bolometer, you think it will show more than, less than, or exactly c? >>> >>> light...frequency...waveguide...bolometer....interesting >> >>Well, Henry? More, less, or exactly c? >> >>Make a stand. It isn't as if you have difficulty denying trivial >>observations when it suits you, or lying about it. > > sorry eric, you have no scientific ability whatsoever. You have the > mentality of a religious fanatic. I'll accept psychological projection in lieu of a straightforward answer of a simple question. I wonder if you are satisfied with how you spend your time these days... [...]
From: eric gisse on 14 Jul 2010 23:21
RichD wrote: > On Jul 10, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Theories do not dictate observation, stupid. > > "It is the theory which determines what we observe." > - Albert Einstein > > And the old perfessor has a point. Henry Wilson was never a professor at anything, and never even attended college. > It is left as an exercise for the student, to > decipher this enigmatic assertion. > > -- > Rich |