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From: Sir Frederick Martin on 20 Jun 2010 23:48
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:32:59 -0700 (PDT), Monsieur Turtoni <turtoni(a)fastmail.net> wrote:

>On Jun 20, 10:56�pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> > [bending of light by the sun]
>> > As we all know, a glass or plastic lens bends light, simply because
>> > the light passing through same has to have the same phase front and
>> > also travel slower. �This is just what is happening when the starlight
>> > passes through the dense (or light, depending upon radial distance)
>> > atmosphere outside the sun. �In other words, the sun is acting as an
>> > optical lens, and thus bending the starlight.
>>
>> No. You REALLY need to read the literature. In particular, the bending of light
>> by the sun due to gravitation is INDEPENDENT OF WAVELENGTH of the light. The
>> optical refraction of the sun's atmosphere depends on the wavelength of the
>> light. Measurements have been made at multiple wavelengths that include a model
>> of the sun's atmosphere, and the effect due to gravitation dominates; the result
>> is consistent with GR.
>>
>> Also, the sun's deflection of microwaves has been measured via VLBI out past 90
>> degrees from the sun, where the solar atmosphere is completely negligible. Such
>> a path does not get any closer to the sun than the earth is, yet the sun's
>> gravitational deflection is measurable and consistent with GR.
>>
>> > To totally ignore this optical aspect, [...]
>>
>> It is not ignored in the physics literature. For you to totally ignore the
>> physics literature is indeed "terrific bungling or intellectual dishonesty of
>> the lowest kind".
>>
>> Also, you completely ignored the fact that there are many other tests of GR.
>>
>> � � � � And there are 3 potential refutations of GR for which the jury
>> � � � � is still out: the Pioneer anomaly, dark matter and energy, and
>> � � � � spacecraft flyby anomalies.
>>
>> Tom Roberts
>
>You have to bare in mind that the vast majority of usenet posters
>appear to be mentally ill..
>
>HTHelps.

Welcome back to the scene.
It takes a kind of mental illness just to be human,
thus all but the BORG are loony.
Functioning in society requires a common mental illness
called domestication, a learned stance.

Best,
Martin
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