From: Arindam Banerjee on
On Jun 15, 8:44 pm, "Me, ...again!" <arthu...(a)mv.com> wrote:
> Good morning, Arindam.
>
> I am up this morning, with coffee, and seeing what
> dogmatic mischeif jBm is up to, today.

Good morning, Stragdoggie (it is morning here)
Will make coffee now. jBm has been rather quiet wrt myself lately,
wonder what mischief he will be up to.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 10:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 14, 8:35 am, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...(a)gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jun 14, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Jun 13, 4:57 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>
> >>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>>> Einstein was right: space and time bend
>
> >>>>> Ninety years after he expounded his famous theory, a $700m Nasa probe
> >>>>> has proved that the universe behaves as he said. Now the race is on
> >>>>> to show that the other half of relativity also works
>
> >>>>> By Anushka Asthana and David Smith
> >>>>> The Observer, U.K.
> >>>>> guardian.co.uk
> >>>>> Sunday, April 15, 2007
>
> >>>>> Under his name in the Oxford English Dictionary is the simple
> >>>>> definition: genius. Yet for decades physicists have been asking the
> >>>>> question: did Albert Einstein get it wrong? After half a century,
> >>>>> seven cancellations and $700m, a mission to test his theory about the
> >>>>> universe has finally confirmed that the man was a mastermind -- or at
> >>>>> least half proved it.
>
> >>>>> The early results from Gravity Probe B, one of Nasa's most
> >>>>> complicated satellites, confirmed yesterday 'to a precision of better
> >>>>> than 1 per cent' the assertion Einstein made 90 years ago -- that an
> >>>>> object such as the Earth does indeed distort the fabric of space and
> >>>>> time.
>
> >>>>> But this -- what is referred to as the 'geodetic' effect -- is only
> >>>>> half of the theory. The other, 'frame-dragging', stated that as the
> >>>>> world spins it drags the fabric of the universe behind it.
>
> >>>>> Francis Everitt, the Stanford University professor who has devoted
> >>>>> his life to investigating Einstein's theory of relativity, told
> >>>>> scientists at the American Physical Society it would be another eight
> >>>>> months before he could measure the 'frame-dragging' effect precisely.
>
> >>>>> 'Understanding the details is a bit like an archeological dig,' said
> >>>>> William Bencze, programme manager for the mission. 'A scientist
> >>>>> starts with a bulldozer, follows with a shovel, then finally uses
> >>>>> dental picks and toothbrushes to clear the dust away. We're passing
> >>>>> out the toothbrushes now.'
>
> >>>>> The Gravity Probe B project was conceived in the late 1950s but
> >>>>> suffered decades of delays while other scientists ran tests
> >>>>> corroborating Einstein's theory. It was Everitt's determination that
> >>>>> stopped it being cancelled. The joint mission between Nasa and
> >>>>> Stanford University uses four of the most perfect spheres -- ultra
> >>>>> precise gyroscopes -- to detect minute distortions in the fabric of
> >>>>> the universe. Everitt's aim was to prove to the highest precision yet
> >>>>> if Einstein was correct in the way he described gravity.
>
> >>>>> According to Einstein, in the same way that a large ball placed on a
> >>>>> elasticated cloth stretches the fabric and causes it to sag, so
> >>>>> planets and stars warp space-time. A marble moving along the sagging
> >>>>> cloth will be drawn towards the ball, as the Earth is to the Sun, but
> >>>>> not fall into it as long as it keeps moving at speed. Gravity, argued
> >>>>> Einstein, was not an attractive force between bodies as had been
> >>>>> previously thought.
>
> >>>>> Few scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in
> >>>>> December, to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most
> >>>>> esoteric aspects of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple
> >>>>> equation, e=mc2, the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe
> >>>>> are standing up to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the
> >>>>> Royal Astronomical Society.
>
> >>>>> He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory and
> >>>>> confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
> >>>>> length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already
> >>>>> been shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the
> >>>>> announcement would 'fork no lightning'.
>
> >>>>> The theory explained
>
> >>>>> When Einstein wrote his general theory of relativity in 1915, he
> >>>>> found a new way to describe gravity. It was not a force, as Sir Isaac
> >>>>> Newton had supposed, but a consequence of the distortion of space and
> >>>>> time, conceived together in his theory as 'space-time'. Any object
> >>>>> distorts the fabric of space-time and the bigger it is, the greater
> >>>>> the effect.
>
> >>>>> Just as a bowling ball placed on a trampoline stretches the fabric
> >>>>> and causes it to sag, so planets and stars warp space-time -- a
> >>>>> phenomenon known as the 'geodetic effect'. A marble moving along the
> >>>>> trampoline will be drawn inexorably towards the ball.
>
> >>>> 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> >>>> "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> >>>> with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ....
> >>>> disregarding the causes which condition its state."
>
> >>>> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> >>>> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> >>>> aether's state of displacement.
>
> >>>> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> >>>> The material is maether.
> >>>> Maether has mass.
> >>>> Aether and matter have mass.
> >>>> Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
> >>>> Aether is displaced by matter.
> >>>> The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
> >>>> The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether.
> >>>> Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter.
>
> >>>> Just as a bowling ball placed in a tank of water displaces the water,
> >>>> so does matter displace the aether.
>
> >>> No. Aether permeates everything.  Everything moves in aether, and
> >>> aether is in everything.
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> Correct.
>
> > Good.
>
> >> The aether permeates everything except the nuclei of an atom.
>
> > The volume of actual matter in any atom is very small as a percentage
> > value of the atom size, going by fundamental atomic theory. Matter
> > being defined as a substance capable of being affected by forces,
> > though this is tautological as force is also defined in terms of
> > matter.  So ultimately we do not know very much about matter.  The
> > most powerful microscopes shows any atom as just a blob.
>
> >> Each and every nuclei which an object consists of displaces the
> >> aether.
>
> > Aether by definition is a solid, which cannot be displaced like a gas
> > or liquid.  However, it can be twisted (sheared) and perhaps this is
> > what you mean.  Let us say a nucleus shears aether.  This may be, or
> > may not be. We cannot know. The aether may also fill the nuclei, which
> > could be porous to the aether.
>
> >> The bowling ball analogy is more accurate if you consider the bowling
> >> ball to consist of millions of tiny particles separated by springs.
>
> > Or held together?
>
> > In
> >> this analogy each of the particles which constitute the bowling
> >> displaces the water at the same time the water exists throughout the
> >> bowling ball. The bowling ball which consists of millions of tiny
> >> particles separated by springs still displaces the water.
>
> > Firstly the aether is solid, so it does not get displaced.  For a
> > solid is a solid if its components do NOT get displaced with respect
> > to each other - save for temporaray shears.  So the analogy is more
> > like putting a sieve with very fine mesh through potato mash.  So fine
> > that as the sieve goes through the potato mash, the potato mash
> > remains undisturbed.  A bit of mash may twist a bit as the mesh
> > presses it, but reforms after the mesh has passed through. Matter is
> > the sieve, and aether the mash, in this analogy.  It is not a good
> > analogy, for potato mash is not that convincing a solid, but may do
> > for the purpose.
>
> >> Just as a bowling ball, consisting of millions of tiny particles
> >> separated by springs, placed in a tank of water displaces the water,
> >> as does matter, which consists of nuclei separated by aether,
> >> displaces the aether.
>
> > No. See above. Solids cannot be displaced, only sheared.
>
> > Just as a void does not remain in the displaced
> >> water when the bowling ball is removed due to the pressure exerted by
> >> the water towards the bowling ball, the displaced aether exerts
> >> pressure towards the matter
>
> > The sheared ether is what carries all radiant energies, and this is
> > what we all must accept when we throw out the quantum theoretic
> > nonsense (along with entropy and relativity).  By concentrating and
> > basing all future physics upon:
>
> > c(v=V) = c(mu,ep) + V and
> > e=0.5mVV(N-k)
>
> > Once reputed institutes allow me to lecture how right the above are,
> > and how wrong e=mcc is, I can publish my book "The Principles of
> > Motion". One step at a time!  Let us throw e=mcc out first, by going
> > through
>
> >http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMint.htm where the extraordinary
> > bungle made by Einstein is clearly exposed.
>
> > Cheers,
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