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From: socratus on 21 Apr 2010 07:47 Electrons puzzles. The electron is not a point. The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic. The electron doesn't have really orbit . . . It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency. It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time. From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether. # 1900, 1905 Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f. 1916 Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c, it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c. 1928 Dirac found two more formulas of electrons energy: +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2. Questions. Why does electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ? Why does electron obey three Laws ? a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law # What is an electron ? ========. Socratus.
From: mathematician on 21 Apr 2010 09:49 On 21 huhti, 14:47, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Electrons puzzles. > > The electron is not a point. > The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic. > The electron doesn't have really orbit . . . > It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency. > It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time. > From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters > becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason > of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether. > # > 1900, 1905 > Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f. > 1916 > Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c, > it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c. > 1928 > Dirac found two more formulas of electrons energy: > +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2. > Questions. > Why does electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ? > Why does electron obey three Laws ? > a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass > b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law > c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law > # > What is an electron ? There is a description about structure of electron, mu-lepton, tau-lepton and fourth x-lepton of old H-M's drawing in my Home Page. My home page's address can be found in my profile page (collection of my writings from the year 1992 to the end of the year 2009 in ASCII-format (*.txt)). Electron was drawn as a color circling as forming a sphere surface which had a suction spot on its surface. From the suction spot it was drawn like a "tornado" color structure to the center of the sphere. Please take a look Hannu Poropudas > ========. > Socratus.
From: PD on 21 Apr 2010 09:52 On Apr 21, 6:47 am, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Electrons puzzles. > > The electron is not a point. > The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic. > The electron doesn't have really orbit . . . > It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency. > It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time. > From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters > becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason > of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether. > # > 1900, 1905 > Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f. > 1916 > Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c, > it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c. > 1928 > Dirac found two more formulas of electrons energy: > +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2. > Questions. > Why does electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ? > Why does electron obey three Laws ? > a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass > b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law > c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law > # > What is an electron ? > ========. > Socratus. A lot of your confusions have to do with basic misunderstandings. 1. Elastic does not mean soft and rubbery. It means that all the energy that goes into it comes back out. In this respect, steel balls are very nearly perfectly elastic. This is why they are used in a common desk toy called a Newton's cradle, which you can look up. 2. An electron is not a particle and a wave at the same time. It is an object in a third category entirely, which happens to exhibit some properties of a particle and some properties of a wave. A US quarter coin exhibits the properties of an eagle and the face of a president, but this doesn't make the coin both a president and a bird. 3. You are under the impression that one kind of object should be described by one equation. This is flat wrong and has never been the case. Every object in the universe has its behavior controlled by many natural laws, and so the behavior is described by many different equations. This is true for rubber balls, for dandelion seeds, and for protons.
From: glird on 24 Apr 2010 17:45 On Apr 23, 11:40 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 23, 10:28 am, maxwell <s...(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > > Could you supply one reference (preferably online) which MEASURES the gravitational effects on a single electron? This effect seems very unlikely as the ratio of the EM to gravitational force on an electron is at least 10**40. > > > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1977RScI...48....1W I looked at the referenced page and found nothing about HOW the g- force is measured. Thinking that perhaps it might be treated in "physics today", I picked up the nearest issue and opened it to -- of all things -- "Universal insights from few-body land" by C. H. Greene. I started to read the article and found its main thesis ("The universal properties of systems having short-range interactions -- be they among cold atoms or nucleons or molecule -- connect in turn to the beautiful but mysterious effect discovered by nuclear theorist Vitaly Efimov ... in 1969") fascinating. On studying the article after being intrigued by its next sentence ("Within the past four years, progress has erupted in exploring the Efimov effect and related phenomena through the manipulation of dilute atomic gases near a Fano-Feshbach resonance") I read the rest of the page and the next one, studying its Figures 1 and 2 and trying to understand what it was talking about even though its math is WAY over (or under?) my head. Then I turned to the next page (62, of this March, 2010 issue) and was reading the part entitled "The Smoking Gun" and then, when I got to the place where it said "in 2009 several experiments managed to obtain completely convincing and unambiguous evidence -- smoking guns of universal physics" I looked at Figure 3 across the entire top of the page; and WHAMM!! There, in deep blue, was a line tracing out EXACTLY THE SAME pattern hand drawn as the structural pattern of all mono-nuclear matter-units, from atoms to galaxies, in my 1965 book, The Nature of Matter and Energy (Figure 41-4 on page 320). Here is one of the sentences ... Sorry! On looking for ONE key sentence I found myself back at pg 211, and it is now an HOUR or so later and i am still too fascinated by my own words to pick out one sentence for you, here. As to an electron, that story is complicated. glird
From: maxwell on 25 Apr 2010 11:02
On Apr 23, 8:40 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 23, 10:28 am, maxwell <s...(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > > > On Apr 22, 6:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> ... > > > It is simple because it appears not to be composite, as far as we can > > > tell. > > > Other than that, it is like a bunch of other simple particles, in that > > > it obeys a whole slew of physical laws, including: > > > * the electrostatic interaction > > > * the weak interaction > > > * the gravitational interaction > > > ... > > > Could you supply one reference (preferably online) which MEASURES the > > gravitational effects on a single electron? This effect seems very > > unlikely as the ratio of the EM to gravitational force on an electron > > is at least 10**40. > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1977RScI...48....1W Thank you for the reference but I cannot access the details. I still do not understand how the electric effects of the container can be isolated away so that only the gravitational effects can be exhibited. What is your take on this experiment? |