From: Y.Porat on
On Apr 21, 1:50 pm, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Electron’s puzzles.
>
> The electron is not a point.
> The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic.
> The electron doesn't have really orbit . . .
>  It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency.
> It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time.
> From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters
>  becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason
>  of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether.
> #
> 1900, 1905
> Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f.
> 1916
> Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
>  it means:  e= +ah*c  and  e= -ah*c.
> 1928
> Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
>  +E=Mc^2  and  -E=Mc^2.
> Questions.
> Why does electron have  five ( 5 ) formulas ?
> Why does electron obey three Laws ?
>     a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
>     b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
>     c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
> #
> What is an electron ?
> ========.
> Socratus.

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since it is not a point
it is subdivided to smaller components !!

because a point has no specific direction
specific directions and spin
can be done only by
a conglomeration of sub particles
WITH A GEOMETRIC STRUCTURE !!

(IT MIGHT BE EVEN A FEW FLEXIBLE
GEOMETRIC STRUCTURES-
I SUGGESTED THE ''EEL'' MODEL)

ATB
Y.Porat
-----------------------------
FOR IT !
From: Y.Porat on
On May 27, 11:32 am, "GBaars" <g.baar...(a)Chello.nl> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:36b0af0f-611c-4ae7-acac-accc74d20a5d(a)y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 21, 1:50 pm, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Electron’s puzzles.
>
> > The electron is not a point.
> > The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic.
> > The electron doesn't have really orbit . . .
> > It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency.
> > It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time.
> > From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters
> > becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason
> > of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether.
> > #
> > 1900, 1905
> > Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f.
> > 1916
> > Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
> > it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c.
> > 1928
> > Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
> > +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2.
> > Questions.
> > Why does electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ?
> > Why does electron obey three Laws ?
> > a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
> > b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
> > c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
> > #
> > What is an electron ?
> > ========.
> > Socratus.
>
> --------------
>
> since it is not a point
> it is subdivided to smaller components !!
>
> because a point has no  specific direction
> specific directions and spin
> can be done only by
> a conglomeration of sub particles
> WITH A GEOMETRIC STRUCTURE !!
>
> (IT MIGHT BE EVEN A FEW FLEXIBLE
> GEOMETRIC STRUCTURES-
>  I SUGGESTED THE ''EEL'' MODEL)
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> -----------------------------
> FOR    IT  !
>
> Alright, but what is it made of?

---------------
made of sub-particles

as for now
'unbelievable surprise' for you ....
NO ONE -AS FOR NOW--
KNOWS IT !!!!
EVEN NOT FUCKEN CRIPPLED -QM !!!

if you ask my private idea?
it is made of 'Circlons' ::
or conglomerations of those 'Circlons '
(a very basic particle that moves naturally
in closed circles
and is able to make 'chains of orbitals'

see my abstract:

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

yet
that Circlon s a guess of mine
(therefore it is only in my appendix )--

unlike the rest of the model
that is much much more than a guess....

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------

From: spudnik on
dood, is it OK if I call you, Th'orbert -- Dorb for short?... wel,
you have a knack for short neologisms (gloss contains
both "density" and "dinsity," as well as words
that seem new, whether entymologically related
to any thing.

however, apart from one equation on the glide-through,
didn't see no predictions xor hypotheses;
just a *lot* of verbiage. also,
some of what appeared to be 'Sixtiesisms, like, if that's a word,
beside of Wow.

I mean, REALLY, wow.

thusNso:
you are relying on rationals,
that are decimals (in the base of ten, although
some authors will call rationals "decimals," in any integral base,
which is one class of solutions (what ever it's called,
in what ever we're talking about)). in any case,
it is almost a standard, that one use the base
that is associated with the prime exponent ...
which is really the meaning of some
of Fermat's theorems & challenges [*].

and that makes me very happy, then very sad ... because
you're probably trying to find some guru/god/guy or some goddess,
who already wrote this up in the hither & yon
of Vedic psychorama ... which reminds me of A.C.Clarke and
the Satellevator Daytrippers, ba-doom/yeah.

thusNso:
Shell is about half British, but Netherlands is the big port o'call
(also, the place to call when the windmill feathers,
inapproprietly).

why should I believe in your kind of free energy, and
how could I measure it (sik) ??... maybe,
it really is "free trade."

> Then introduce free energy technology [ellipsis].

-------
* anyway, for those of you/us/them in need of "skills,"
I want to suggest Fermat's "reconstruction of Euclid's porisms;"
they seem rather a r b i t r a r y , but that's just me,
"you, idiota!"

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com
From: spudnik on
.... and, one only needs to do prime exponents/bases, "because
of the easy lemma for composite bases, except
for n=4, where Fermatttt said, 'Oops,
c'ette une case especially -- need an other proof!'"

heh-heh; not in my book.

thusNso:
dood, is it OK if I call you, Th'orbert -- Dorb for short?... wel,
you have a knack for short neologisms (gloss contains
both "density" and "dinsity," as well as words
that seem new, whether entymologically related
to any thing.

however, apart from one equation on the glide-through,
didn't see no predictions xor hypotheses;
just a *lot* of verbiage. also,
some of what appeared to be 'Sixtiesisms, like, if that's a word,
beside of Wow.

I mean, REALLY, wow.

thusNso:
you are relying on rationals,
that are decimals (in the base of ten, although
some authors will call rationals "decimals," in any integral base,
which is one class of solutions (what ever it's called,
in what ever we're talking about)). in any case,
it is almost a standard, that one use the base
that is associated with the prime exponent ...
which is really the meaning of some
of Fermat's theorems & challenges [*].

and that makes me very happy, then very sad ... because
you're probably trying to find some guru/god/guy or some goddess,
who already wrote this up in the hither & yon
of Vedic psychorama ... which reminds me of A.C.Clarke and
the Satellevator Daytrippers, ba-doom/yeah.

thusNso:
Shell is about half British, but Netherlands is the big port o'call
(also, the place to call when the windmill feathers,
inapproprietly).

why should I believe in your kind of free energy, and
how could I measure it (sik) ??... maybe,
it really is "free trade."

> Then introduce free energy technology [ellipsis].

-------
* anyway, for those of you/us/them in need of "skills,"
I want to suggest Fermat's "reconstruction of Euclid's porisms;"
they seem rather a r b i t r a r y , but that's just me,
"you, idiota!"

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com
From: BURT on
On May 27, 12:42 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 11:32 am, "GBaars" <g.baar...(a)Chello.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:36b0af0f-611c-4ae7-acac-accc74d20a5d(a)y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com....
> > On Apr 21, 1:50 pm, socratus <isra...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Electron’s puzzles.
>
> > > The electron is not a point.
> > > The electron cannot be hard as a steel, it must be elastic.
> > > The electron doesn't have really orbit . . .
> > > It is a reason of a standing wave of fantastically high frequency.
> > > It can be a corpuscular and a wave at the same time.
> > > From one hand, in interaction with aether all its parameters
> > > becomes infinite, but from the other hand, it is the reason
> > > of electromagnetic waves and a density in the aether.
> > > #
> > > 1900, 1905
> > > Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f.
> > > 1916
> > > Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
> > > it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c.
> > > 1928
> > > Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
> > > +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2.
> > > Questions.
> > > Why does electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ?
> > > Why does electron obey three Laws ?
> > > a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
> > > b) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
> > > c) The Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
> > > #
> > > What is an electron ?
> > > ========.
> > > Socratus.
>
> > --------------
>
> > since it is not a point
> > it is subdivided to smaller components !!
>
> > because a point has no  specific direction
> > specific directions and spin
> > can be done only by
> > a conglomeration of sub particles
> > WITH A GEOMETRIC STRUCTURE !!
>
> > (IT MIGHT BE EVEN A FEW FLEXIBLE
> > GEOMETRIC STRUCTURES-
> >  I SUGGESTED THE ''EEL'' MODEL)
>
> > ATB
> > Y.Porat
> > -----------------------------
> > FOR    IT  !
>
> > Alright, but what is it made of?
>
> ---------------
> made of sub-particles
>
> as for now
> 'unbelievable surprise' for you ....
>  NO ONE -AS FOR NOW--
> KNOWS IT   !!!!
> EVEN NOT FUCKEN  CRIPPLED -QM   !!!
>
> if you ask   my private idea?
> it is made of 'Circlons'   ::
> or conglomerations of those 'Circlons '
> (a very basic particle that moves naturally
> in closed circles
> and is able to   make 'chains of orbitals'
>
> see my abstract:
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
>
> yet
> that Circlon   s a guess of mine
> (therefore it is only in my appendix  )--
>
> unlike the rest of the model
> that is much  much more than a guess....
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
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All particles are point. The electron is one but the proton and
neutron are three points of energy called quarks. All particles are
infinitely small.

Mitch Raemsch