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From: FreeRTOS info on 12 Feb 2010 12:51 On 12/02/2010 12:32, Leon wrote: > On 6 Feb, 16:00, Marcus Jones <MJo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I would be interested to find out some figures about the share >> in the embedded processor market of the different vendors such as ARM, >> IBM, NEC, etc. >> >> Does anyone know about any web resources where those details are cleary >> shown? >> >> Thanks for your help, >> Marcus > > FWIW, Microchip is top in 8-bit MCUs, and Atmel is 5th. I think that > came from a Gartner report, originally. > > Leon Really? This conversation normally ends up with somebody quoting figures from the 'black blob' manufacturers that eclipse any of the catalogue sellers. Can't remember the names of the companies because they don't market to plebs like me. I think one has 'sun' in its name. These are the companies that sell micros for 20 cents a pop, but have minimum order quantities of 20K+ units. Rip open your kids talking dolly and you will find one, but it won't be marked with anything that tells you what it is. -- Regards, Richard. + http://www.FreeRTOS.org Designed for Microcontrollers. More than 7000 downloads per month. + http://www.SafeRTOS.com Certified by TÃV as meeting the requirements for safety related systems.
From: rickman on 12 Feb 2010 13:22 On Feb 12, 11:56 am, Spehro Pefhany <speffS...(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:40:06 -0800 (PST), rickman <gnu...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >On Feb 12, 7:32 am, Leon <leon...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >> On 6 Feb, 16:00, Marcus Jones <MJo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Hi all, > > >> > I would be interested to find out some figures about the share > >> > in the embedded processor market of the different vendors such as ARM, > >> > IBM, NEC, etc. > > >> > Does anyone know about any web resources where those details are cleary > >> > shown? > > >> > Thanks for your help, > >> > Marcus > > >> FWIW, Microchip is top in 8-bit MCUs, and Atmel is 5th. I think that > >> came from a Gartner report, originally. > > >It is important to know if this is in terms of processor count or if > >it is in terms of revenue from those sales. Of course that importance > >depends on why the question is being asked. But then I can't think of > >a reason why this question in either form would really be useful in an > >of itself. > > >Rick > > Well, it must be really useful to the folks who pay Gartner big bux to > do their research (for example, useful for the salescritters to employ > whilst flogging their respective products). Yeah... every penny spent by everyone in a company is spent very wisely! I have seen managers that pay a few hundred a year (20 years ago) for this sort of stuff and treat it like a subscription to EDN. I am sure there are a few management types (especially with companies that show up in those reports) who find this info useful. But what use do engineers have for knowing that brand X sells 20% more than brand Y? That doesn't tell me squat about the things I really need to know, like are they likely to be bought up or go under and the million technical and product oriented issues, like will they continue to make the part I want to use for the next 5 years? Rick
From: vinnie on 16 Feb 2010 15:06 >On Feb 12, 11:56=A0am, Spehro Pefhany ><speffS...(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:40:06 -0800 (PST), rickman <gnu...(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Feb 12, 7:32=A0am, Leon <leon...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> On 6 Feb, 16:00, Marcus Jones <MJo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi all, >> >> >> > I would be interested to find out some figures about the share >> >> > in the embedded processor market of the different vendors such as AR= >M, >> >> > IBM, NEC, etc. >Yeah... every penny spent by everyone in a company is spent very >wisely! I have seen managers that pay a few hundred a year (20 years >ago) for this sort of stuff and treat it like a subscription to EDN. >I am sure there are a few management types (especially with companies >that show up in those reports) who find this info useful. But what >use do engineers have for knowing that brand X sells 20% more than >brand Y? That doesn't tell me squat about the things I really need to >know, like are they likely to be bought up or go under and the million >technical and product oriented issues, like will they continue to make >the part I want to use for the next 5 years? > Rick has a good point. What should matter is if the MCU you choose will be around in 5-10 years. That depends quite a bit on the company you pick, and the MCU you choose. You also need to know that you can't use overly broad categories, since Mot and IBM both made PowerPC chips (at one time) but they weren't all drop-in compatible as I recall. Same thing goes for ARM, 8051, etc. Buyer beware - your silicon supplier has little or no incentive to make their chips drop-in compatible with another silicon supplier. 8051 did have multiple suppliers (at one time) with selected drop-in compatible chips, but even then there were situations where vendor A did something different than vendor B. --Vinnie --------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.EmbeddedRelated.com
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