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From: Arthur Entlich on 11 Jan 2006 11:33 Yes, Bill, "another person" doesn't like me... but he's back in two groups I regularly frequent, isn't he? In fact, he seems to have a posting right under yours here on comp.periphs.printers... You know what, there are at least a half dozen people on this very group who I know don't like my politics; think that bothers me? They too have detractors (besides me) in numerous other groups. After one person on another list I am on didn't like something I wrote and suggested I leave, I ran a survey asking people to let me know via private mail if they found my presence helpful on the group. My mailbox was overrun with over one hundred emails begging me to stay, and many had some pretty nasty things to say about the guy who instigated the situation. I got just two people who responded with anything but praise. One was noncommittal, and he was new to the group, and the other was the original person in question. So you see Bill, I really am beyond worrying about a few detractors, since every group has them. I'm flattered that you stand on guard to lambaste me when I make a factual error. Obviously, you think my opinions have great sway, And the fact that I can so bother a couple of you to the point of having you leave a group because of me, well, that's seems to make me either pretty powerful, or someone pretty thin skinned. I know you and "another person" both have costly Nikon film scanners which I spent time warning people about, along with several other Nikon models, due to fairly considerable design defects and that bothers you, but the information I provided was factual and accurate, verified by other owners, and even finally acknowledged by Nikon (as much as they ever admit to design defects, which isn't much). My ego is not connected to my purchases of tech equipment, and I am quite willing to point out the design issues or customer service issues relating to products I own, as well. It's a service to the community when people can find out before they make the purchase what they may be in for. By the way, my Polaroid Sprintscan 4000+ is doing just fine, thank you, and the company that made it is still in business, and support is even offered by the company that sold it. Sadly, the core Polaroid Corp did go "belly up" as you call it, because they were a company based on the customer service model, and today that isn't what investors are after. They want quick bucks. Polaroid made two mistakes. They didn't respond fast enough to the move to digital, and they continued to believe in the concept of customer service over corporate profits. When you work in a world where everyone is a shark, it's hard to survive as a lone porpoise. And again, just to be clear, I own and use many thousands of dollars of Nikon camera bodies and lenses, and most have been amazingly reliable and of good quality, so I would hardly say I had it out for Nikon. I'm even considering buying a Nikon D-SLR (since I own all those lenses). Similarly, if I truly had it "out" for Epson, I would not spend time defending the product line, owning their products and spending hours every day helping people who use their printers, without any financial compensation. However, that doesn't mean I will shut up about their design issues. I have been in the guts of enough Epson printers to know where the good engineering stops and the "stick it to the consumer" begins. As to what I accomplish, you wouldn't have a clue, so again I take no offense to your ignorance. It ain't all about the money Bill. Art Bill Hilton wrote: >>Arthur Entlich whines ... >> >>Thanks for the correction Bill. I bow to your knowledge. ... >>But you, in all your "wisdom" couldn't hold your typing fingers >>without making a completely uncalled for, and statistically >>inaccurate statement about me, could you? > > > No I couldn't, because for about five years I've thought you were one > of the most annoying clueless jackasses on the newsgroups Arthur. You > seem to have it in for companies that are market leaders and drone on > endlessly about all the things they are doing wrong while you've never > actually accomplished anything yourself, whether it's Epson printers or > Nikon scanners (how's that Polaroid Sprintscan doing for you, now that > they went belly up?). I just ignore your endless opiniated replies but > when you get your facts wrong I'll feel free to jump in, whether you > like it or not. > > And it's not just me who feels that way, another person in this thread > once told me he found you so replusive that he would sometimes abandon > a group when you entered. Why is that? > > Bill >
From: Arthur Entlich on 11 Jan 2006 11:46 If your 1270 continues to give you good service, I'm not suggesting anything. However, if the heads are as gooped up as you suggest, it will probably eventually begin to leave streaks and marks on some heavier weight papers. My experience is that early maintenance can save time later on. As to what is holding things together on this particular model, it may be very tight tolerances on your particular unit, or you live in a high humidity area. Maybe the waste ink pads are giving off so much vapor, it keeps the heads from drying out. I have this one NiCd rechargeable AA battery. It came from a set of about a dozen , the others of which are long ago recycled because they either started to leak, or would no longer hold a charge. But this one seems invincible, and I have no idea why. It was used similarly, and it was one of a group of the same brand, all of which became useless. Who knows why? (that's rhetorical ;-)) Art Mark? wrote: > Arthur Entlich wrote: > >>Mark? wrote: >> >> >>>Arthur Entlich wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Mark? wrote: >>>> >>>>Your 1270 probably just needs a good cleaning of the cleaning >>>>station. The purge pump may be all gummed up as well. Cleaning the >>>>cleaning station and ink wiper can make a improvement in the >>>>cleaning cycles as well. >>> >>> >>>Actually, there is no problem with my 1270. To the contrary, it has >>>never clogged in over 6 years, which is why I mentioned it in this >>>thread. Perhaps you missed that part... >>>:) >>> >> >>No, I saw that part, but I am not convinced that is what is keeping >>the head from clogging. > > > Neither am I, though I don't have a better explanation... Do you? > I have done absolutely nothing out of the ordinary, and yet it has never > ever clogged. > > >>>Interestingly, it remains >>>wet...NEVER drying--even after long periods on non-use. This means >>>that instead of "cleaning" the head, it simply wipes goo around and >>>ONTO the head. :) Perhaps this is partly what's helped my 1270 >>>keep from clogging over the years...because the head can't dry >>>out/clog when it's parked in big mess of wet goop! >> >>The cleaning station shouldn't be that gooped up. I'm surprised you >>don't get some black streaks on the paper surface if it has any >>variation in it. Your printer's waste ink pads may well be so >>saturated that the ink has nowhere to flow to (not so much that it >>needs capillary action or wicking, but that it needs a bit more >>distance to flow out of the waste ink tube, and that distance has >>been reduced as the pads become saturated. > > > As far as I'm concerned...it doesn't "need" anything at all. > It doesn't streak...and it doesn't clog. > If it ain't broke...why are you suggesting I fix it? > :) > > >>>>>>I have >>>>>>a whole storage room filled to the brim with old high-tech >>>>>>products. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Me too. -I just threw a bunch of it away as I cleadned the garage >>>>>yesterday. >>>>> >>>> >>>>The problem is we pretty much all have a basement/closet/room filled >>>>with lower high tech, and eventually it's all going to be tossed, >>>>but where? Consumers, governments and manufacturers need to work >>>>together of reducing and eliminating this spiral. >>> >>> >>>California's lame answer to this was to start slapping people with >>>disposal taxes when they purchase monitors and the like. Stupid >>>part is...they give no indication of any particular mechanism this >>>money creates for the actual disposal! >>>That's new for ya... It may...or (more likely) may not...go to >>>anything related to it supposed reason for being imposed. >>>:( >>> >> >>Alberta Canada has a similar law, but I believe the money is being >>earmarked for take back, take apart and recycle programs. Up front >>money isn't a bad idea, part of the cost of the product existing, is >>the reduction of the product back into parts that aren't harmful to >>nature. >>There certainly should be money earmarked to make sure the monies >>collected are reinvented in recycling programs that work. >> >> >>>>It saddens me to see so much "valuable" stuff get dumped. The items >>>>were leading edge at one point, and people paid big money to be "on >>>>top" with this stuff. The amount of money I have spent on storage >>>>media and devices and memory, all completely obsolete now, is >>>>sickening... I try not to think about it! >>> >>> >>>:) >>>It kills me too, except that I then remind myself of all I couldn't >>>have done without it at the time. >>>It's sort of like gasoline. You can look back at all the gas you've >>>burned over the years...having nothing to show for it...but the >>>alternative would have been going nowhere all those years. :) >>>Wasted money? Nah. Really just money spent to get where we're >>>going...both on the road, and on the computer. >>>:) >>>(But OK...on the other hand...it still is a little depressing!) >>>-Mark >> >>Sometimes when I think not just about the money, but the time I spent >>learning to use the cumbersome software So and hardware, I'm not sure >>I'm that far ahead. Newer users have products that have less steep >>learning curves, so in some ways they may catch up with those who >>lived through the dark years. >> >>Art > > > Perhaps... > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 11 Jan 2006 12:04 I have no "personal thing" with Bill, he has a "personal thing" with me, which is pretty obvious. He came out swinging, not me. I personally could care less what Bill thinks. His post quoted below shows what a "good guy" he is. He just doesn't like his "kit" being criticized, even when there is documented proof of problems. He probably never bought a car he didn't like, either. People who are overly attached to brand loyalty, to the point where it influences their ability to see defects, do no favors to others who may be considering buying the products. I haven't had anything to do with Bill in YEARS, in fact, I really have never had anything to do with Bill, period. I was critical of a product he happens to own, and he took it personally. One thing for sure, he holds a good grudge, however, even when he's wrong. Art Mark? wrote: > Bill Hilton wrote: > >>>Arthur Entlich whines ... >>> >>>Thanks for the correction Bill. I bow to your knowledge. ... >>>But you, in all your "wisdom" couldn't hold your typing fingers >>>without making a completely uncalled for, and statistically >>>inaccurate statement about me, could you? >> >>No I couldn't, because for about five years I've thought you were one >>of the most annoying clueless jackasses on the newsgroups Arthur. You >>seem to have it in for companies that are market leaders and drone on >>endlessly about all the things they are doing wrong while you've never >>actually accomplished anything yourself, whether it's Epson printers >>or Nikon scanners (how's that Polaroid Sprintscan doing for you, now >>that they went belly up?). I just ignore your endless opiniated >>replies but when you get your facts wrong I'll feel free to jump in, >>whether you like it or not. >> >>And it's not just me who feels that way, another person in this thread >>once told me he found you so replusive that he would sometimes abandon >>a group when you entered. Why is that? >> >>Bill > > > I don't know the history involved with the two of you...but to Arthur: > -If you've got a thing with Bill, it must be a "personal thing," because > I've never seen anything in/from Bill (save for this little heated exchange) > that would indicate anything other than Bill being a perfect gentleman. > > I don't know you, Arthur, and so won't comment with regard to you. > What I can say, though, is that around here, Bill is one of the good guys. > > -Mark > >
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From: me@privacy.net on 12 Jan 2006 08:29
In message <43bdf773$0$6297$822641b3(a)news.adtechcomputers.com>, David Nebenzahl <nobody(a)but.us.chickens> writes >Kennedy McEwen spake thus: > >> In article <w9bvf.7874$V.6727(a)fed1read04>, Mark? >><mjmorgan(a)cox.?.net.invalid> writes >> >>> I contend that there isn't ANY media capable of showing a benefit of >>>dpi that high. >> There are plenty of such media, they just aren't papers. :-) > >Like what--stainless steel? Precision-buffed to a high gloss? Printed circuit boards? -- Timothy |