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From: Andrew Poulos on 18 May 2010 16:02 On 18/05/2010 11:42 PM, Scott Sauyet wrote: > David Mark wrote: >> Matt Kruse wrote: >>> On May 17, 9:51 am, David Mark<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> [snip a heap of blithering] >>>> I suppose you still use jQuery as well. :) >>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual >> >>> It's good to see that you are still here trolling with ad-hominem >>> attacks and spewing your same old tired mantra, David. But seriously, >>> isn't it time to grow up, move on, and discuss ideas instead of >>> attacking people? >> >> Some spin that. > > No one here but you -- and maybe your alter-egos -- sees this as spin. > >> Who is responsible for moving projects like jQuery, Dojo, etc. forward > > Their authors and other contributors, mostly. But do you know who? >> [ ... ] Who comes up with and publishes the best ideas (not to mention >> library) for cross-browser scripting? > > Best ideas? Cornford, Crockford, Lahn, Nielsen, Smith, Weiss, and > many others. Good point, though I'd include DM in your list. > Best library? Well to quote one David Mark, "A general purpose > library must do > everything for every context, which is why I don't use them." Yes he did say that but, as history has shown, people are insistent on using a library and so one without the failings on the commonly available ones became necessary. >> Then who periodically pops in here to whine and insult me because much >> of what I do invalidates years of futility on their part? > > I've only been paying attention for six months. But in that time, > I've seen you repeatedly insult Matt without provocation. I've never > seen the reverse. You don't need to explicitly say "so and so is a prat" to be insulting. >> And other than periodically pointing out that you are a >> time-wasting twit, I rarely insult anyone in here. > > The funny thing is I think you might really be blind enough to believe > that. Funny, I don't see it that way. >> Out of nearly 5,000 posts, virtually all >> of them are about ideas. Look at how many times I have gone out of my >> way to solve problems for people here, despite the fact that often they >> are ungrateful (and even hostile). > > It's Saint David, is it? No one but you believes it. Wrong there. I do. >> Go back and read them from the start if your amnesia is flaring up again. > > I wish your nonsense could be blamed on amnesia, but I think it's far > too intentional for that. What nonsense are referring to. Generally I cannot fault DM's js posts. >> Nobody's buying your revisionism (except perhaps you). > > Nobody's buying your revisionism (probably not even you). Revisionism??? > Matt initiated this thread and has rejoined it to discuss interesting > ideas. You seem to drop in here just to make pronouncements or insult > people. Get a life. And you are dropping in to... ? Andrew Poulos
From: Scott Sauyet on 18 May 2010 16:34 Andrew Poulos wrote: > On 18/05/2010 11:42 PM, Scott Sauyet wrote: >> David Mark wrote: >>> Matt Kruse wrote: >>>> On May 17, 9:51 am, David Mark<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> [snip a heap of blithering] >>>>> I suppose you still use jQuery as well. :) >>>>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual > >>>> It's good to see that you are still here trolling with ad-hominem >>>> attacks and spewing your same old tired mantra, David. But seriously, >>>> isn't it time to grow up, move on, and discuss ideas instead of >>>> attacking people? > >>> Some spin that. > >> No one here but you -- and maybe your alter-egos -- sees this as spin. > >>> Who is responsible for moving projects like jQuery, Dojo, etc. forward > >> Their authors and other contributors, mostly. > > But do you know who? When I mentioned alter-egos above, I almost explicitly listed Andrew Poulos. Considering your clear-cut sympathy for David Mark, I hope you won't mind my wondering if you are really just David posting anonymously. So sorry if I don't count your "me too" as a separate vote. -- Scott
From: Garrett Smith on 18 May 2010 17:31 Scott Sauyet wrote: > Andrew Poulos wrote: >> On 18/05/2010 11:42 PM, Scott Sauyet wrote: >>> David Mark wrote: >>>> Matt Kruse wrote: >>>>> On May 17, 9:51 am, David Mark<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> [snip a heap of blithering] [...] > When I mentioned alter-egos above, I almost explicitly listed Andrew > Poulos. Considering your clear-cut sympathy for David Mark, I hope > you won't mind my wondering if you are really just David posting > anonymously. > I'll wager you're wrong. I suggest you look at the news headers and re think (or respeculate or whatever). Even the Google Groups interface shows those last I checked, under "view original" (or similar). Do you really think DM is using an elaborate strategy to look like he is posting through giganews from Australia? -- Garrett comp.lang.javascript FAQ: http://jibbering.com/faq/
From: Andrew Poulos on 18 May 2010 18:17 On 19/05/2010 6:34 AM, Scott Sauyet wrote: > Andrew Poulos wrote: >> On 18/05/2010 11:42 PM, Scott Sauyet wrote: >>> David Mark wrote: >>>> Matt Kruse wrote: >>>>> On May 17, 9:51 am, David Mark<dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> [snip a heap of blithering] >>>>>> I suppose you still use jQuery as well. :) >>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pseudo-intellectual >> >>>>> It's good to see that you are still here trolling with ad-hominem >>>>> attacks and spewing your same old tired mantra, David. But seriously, >>>>> isn't it time to grow up, move on, and discuss ideas instead of >>>>> attacking people? >> >>>> Some spin that. >> >>> No one here but you -- and maybe your alter-egos -- sees this as spin. >> >>>> Who is responsible for moving projects like jQuery, Dojo, etc. forward >> >>> Their authors and other contributors, mostly. >> >> But do you know who? > > When I mentioned alter-egos above, I almost explicitly listed Andrew > Poulos. Considering your clear-cut sympathy for David Mark, I hope > you won't mind my wondering if you are really just David posting > anonymously. If someone points out glaring technical faults in some code then it calls the competence of the writer of that code into question. If, after having been pointed out, the faults are not rectified, then the lack of competence of the write of the code may be deemed to be a fact. This is the point that I believe DM is stressing and not whether the write of the code is a valid human being. > So sorry if I don't count your "me too" as a separate vote. That's very democratic of you ;-) As usual you clip anything that "proves" most of your comments incorrect and, as seems to be typical of your style, to adopt a strawman rhetoric device when challenged. Well, for me, Scot Sauyet does not exist. Andrew Poulos
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 18 May 2010 19:31
Scott Sauyet wrote: > I suggested a generalization in a different direction, and wonder if > you find that one any more interesting: > > fetch("obj1.prop1.prop2[objA.propA.propB].prop3"); > > where both "obj1" and "objA" are assumed to be defined in the current > context, although the code should handle the case where they're not, > and objA.propA.propB contains the name of some property of > obj1.prop1.prop2, although again the code should handle things > appropriately when that's not true. > > Because of this generalization, I find it easier to move the initial > object into the String and supply just a single string parameter. > Obviously I could add an optional delimiter parameter too if needed. > > Would you find this useful? No, and I already told you why. >> Pros: >> - Simple, concise syntax >> - Works for the vast majority of common cases >> - Handles arrays[0], methods(), nested arrays[0][0], and even >> property names with empty brackets[] But not those where there is something in-between, which does happen. PointedEars -- Use any version of Microsoft Frontpage to create your site. (This won't prevent people from viewing your source, but no one will want to steal it.) -- from <http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/hidesource.htm> (404-comp.) |