From: Narek Saribekyan on 12 May 2010 02:27 Hello, Suppose u is in H^l_0 on bounded region (anisotropic Sobolev space, l=(l1,...ln) - multi-index). Note that: All partial (but not mixed) derivatives of u op to orders l_i vanish on the boundary. I'm trying to construct a finite element basis for H^l_0. Using anisotropic Strang-Fix conditions for choosing basis elements, it turns out that multivariate B-splines are appropriate for that purpose (product of univariate B-splines of order l_i for each direction). The problem arises near the boundary, because finite elements near the boundary don't vanish on the boundary (although, their supports have non-empty intersection with the region). I was thinking about getting rid of these elements by taking only those, which have supports completely inside the region. To get an estimate, I need an estimate of norm near the boundary. But u doesn't have mixed-partial derivatives at all, therefore, no Taylor expansion is possible. But maybe there's an estimate in case of Sobolev norm? I don't know if I made it clear to you. Thanks a lot, Narek
From: Han de Bruijn on 12 May 2010 03:12 On May 12, 8:27 am, Narek Saribekyan <narek.saribek...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > Suppose u is in H^l_0 on bounded region (anisotropic Sobolev space, > l=(l1,...ln) - multi-index). > Note that: > All partial (but not mixed) derivatives of u op to orders l_i vanish > on the boundary. > > I'm trying to construct a finite element basis for H^l_0. Using > anisotropic Strang-Fix conditions for choosing basis elements, it > turns out that multivariate B-splines are appropriate for that purpose > (product of univariate B-splines of order l_i for each direction). The > problem arises near the boundary, because finite elements near the > boundary don't vanish on the boundary (although, their supports have > non-empty intersection with the region). I was thinking about getting > rid of these elements by taking only those, which have supports > completely inside the region. To get an estimate, I need an estimate > of norm near the boundary. But u doesn't have mixed-partial > derivatives at all, therefore, no Taylor expansion is possible. But > maybe there's an estimate in case of Sobolev norm? > > I don't know if I made it clear to you. > Thanks a lot, > Narek Maybe you're on the wrong track? Or rather: completely at lost? Han de Bruijn
From: Narek Saribekyan on 12 May 2010 07:22 On May 12, 12:12 pm, Han de Bruijn <umum...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 12, 8:27 am, Narek Saribekyan <narek.saribek...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > Suppose u is in H^l_0 on bounded region (anisotropic Sobolev space, > > l=(l1,...ln) - multi-index). > > Note that: > > All partial (but not mixed) derivatives of u op to orders l_i vanish > > on the boundary. > > > I'm trying to construct a finite element basis for H^l_0. Using > > anisotropic Strang-Fix conditions for choosing basis elements, it > > turns out that multivariate B-splines are appropriate for that purpose > > (product of univariate B-splines of order l_i for each direction). The > > problem arises near the boundary, because finite elements near the > > boundary don't vanish on the boundary (although, their supports have > > non-empty intersection with the region). I was thinking about getting > > rid of these elements by taking only those, which have supports > > completely inside the region. To get an estimate, I need an estimate > > of norm near the boundary. But u doesn't have mixed-partial > > derivatives at all, therefore, no Taylor expansion is possible. But > > maybe there's an estimate in case of Sobolev norm? > > > I don't know if I made it clear to you. > > Thanks a lot, > > Narek > > Maybe you're on the wrong track? Or rather: completely at lost? > > Han de Bruijn I think I'm not.
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