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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 6 Jul 2010 02:29 Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > I need to get back to my physics book, where I am in the middle of it > with "missing mass". > > I was interrupted from that physics book by this: > > 2009 Mathematical Intelligencer magazine article: > > [0] Michael *Hardy* and Catherine Woodgold, > > "*Prime* *Simplicity*", *Mathematical > > Intelligencer<https://mail.google.com/wiki/ > Mathematical_Intelligencer> > Now from that Mathematical Intelligencer MI article Ore's constructive proof was taken to be the same as Euclid's only in modern day language. --- quoting from Number Theory and Its History, Oystein Ore, 1948, page 65 --- Euclid's proof runs as follows: let a, b, c, . . ., k be any family of prime numbers. Take their product P = ab x . . x k and add 1. The P+1 is either a prime or not a prime. If it is, we have added another prime to those given. If it is not, it must be divisible by some prime p. But p cannot be identical with any of the given prime numbers a, b, . . ., k because then it would divide P and also P+1; hence it would divide their difference, which is 1 and this is impossible. Therefore a new prime can always be found to any given (finite) set of primes. --- end quoting Ore ---- As mentioned before, I have some complaints about the above Ore/Euclid rendition in that set theory should have been spoken more of, such as increasing set cardinality. I find the proof valid, but I disagree that the lemma is needed, for I think the lemma is excess baggage-- "hence it would divide their difference". In both Ore and Euclid's rendition, all that need to be stated was the Unique Prime Factorization theorem which would have rendered prime factors if P+1 was not prime itself and thus no lemma of contradiction need be posed. Now there was a bit of fuss in this thread, when I read this passage by Weil after looking in the library for the Ore book: quote of Weil's book "Number theory", 1984, page 5: "Even in Euclid, we fail to find a general statement about the uniqueness of the factorization of an integer into primes; surely he may have been aware of it, but all he has is a statement (Eucl.IX.14) about the l.c.m. of any number of given primes. Finally, the proof for the existence of infinitely many primes (Eucl.IX.20).. " I have no idea as to why Weil felt he had to be deprecatory of Euclid. For all that Andre Weil had to do was put on his thinking cap and realize that many of the number theory concepts of ancient greek time could not have progressed the distance they did without knowing the Fundamental theorem of Arithematic--unique prime factorization theorem (UPFAT). The concept of perfect-numbers would not have occurred without UPFAT. And one must keep in mind that in Ancient Greek, they did not have the decimal number notation and that is why we see so often numbers in Euclid represented as lengths of line. And so the reason that Weil probaby never sees, nor Euclid ever write about unique prime factorization, is the difficulty of even writing numbers not in a decimal notation. So this diversion caused by Weil flippant remark caused me to explore whether the Greeks had UPFAT or whether Weil was in error. And as it turns out, Weil was mistaken. I do not know if there is any moral theme to the Weil diversion, perhaps when you call into question other mathematicians, that your own work is then in question also. For I have the feeling that once mathematics has defined the boundary between finite and infinite as 10^500, that much or maybe all of Weil's work in mathematics becomes untruthful and irrelevant, just as his remark of Greeks over unique prime factorization. So I think the Euclid and Ore proofs are valid, albeit with excess unneeded baggage of a lemma. When all that was needed was to invoke UPFAT for the prime factor search. P.S. I need to remark about an item in that MI article saying words to the effect that any direct proof can be turned into an indirect method proof. For I feel that is a mistake and ironic that the MI article is to clear up errors and errors of myth, and here with this idea of turning any direct method into an indirect may create a brand new erroneous myth that future mathematicians have to straighten out. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |