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From: Citizen Bob on 22 Mar 2007 15:29
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:38:40 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Turn off the Preview Pane (Options/Viewing Mail, as I recall)

Yes, I finally found it buries among a zillion other one-line
options..

>> Then there's the matter of the SHIFT key not working. I used that to
>> select among my various personalities. Now I have to invoke the
>> sidebar and use it.

> I'm not sure I understand the usage.

In the earlier versions of Eudora, the Shift key had the property of
expanding your options for a given function. Thus if you held the
Shift key down and clicked on Check Mail, a popup dialog box would
appear with the option to do all sorts of things, like select the
specific personalities to do the check mail on, and options to do
things like leave the mail on the server etc.

Now these things are scattered all over the place, which makes it
difficult to customize a particular Check Mail activity.

>.. When composing a new message,
>I just use the drop down list in the "From" field to select
>personality...

Yes, I just discovered that a short while ago. That works for me.

> For incoming mail, I've not had to worry -- for the personality that
>is a forwarding account, I have a filter defined that detects the
>address of the forwarding account (the To: field) and changes the
>personality at that time.

I do not need to do that but it sounds cool.

>> I also miss the progress box that lets you know how far along you are
>> when fetching and sending messages. I can't get Task Status to work.

> Options/Display [x] Show Status Bar

Yes, I found that too, when I made a sweep of all the option
categories.

>> Also I can't seem to get simple HTML links to work. They show up as
>> underlined in blue but nothing happens when I click on them.

> That, I'm not sure of -- never had a problem. Maybe try with "Use M$
>Viewer" turned off (a recommended practice anyway)

That's a good idea. I will try it. I remember something in the manual
about that but did not associate it with HTML links working or not.

>> In addition the method of quoting has changed to vertical bars on the
>> left side. I liked it the old way, with one or more ">".

> Not sure how to handle the quoting of flowed text.

I sure miss it.

>> It appears that Eudora is going to become open source - Qualcomm is
>> getting out of the email business.

> Old news -- though as I understand it, the existing Eudora source
>code is not going open, rather Eudora features will be migrated to an
>unholy mating of Eudora and Thunderbird, called Pandora I think?

Is Pandora going to be standalone or embedded in the browser?

If embedded I will be using Eudora for another 10 years.


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From: Citizen Bob on 22 Mar 2007 15:49
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:15:53 -0500, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote:

>> I do not want the split window for each mailbox

>Temporary flip-flop: F7 [key]

>Permanent: Tools > Options > "Viewing Mail" > "Preview Pane"

Yes, as I found out.

>> Then there's the matter of the SHIFT key not working.

>???

>> I used that to select among my various personalities.
>> Now I have to invoke the sidebar and use it.

>Do you mean to choose which "From:" when you compose?
>"From:" always offers a drop-down list
>if there are additional personalities,
>even *after* you've sent the message! (is that a bug?)

Yes, that is what I meant and yes I did finally discover the From
drop-down.

>Do you mean to check mail for one personality at a time?
>Yes, that's Shift while clicking "Check" (or Shift+Ctrl+M);
>is this not working for you?

Yes, it works as it did with 3.0.5.

>> I also miss the progress box that lets you know
>> how far along you are when fetching and sending messages.
>> I can't get Task Status to work.

>Although the small "blue progress bar" in the "Status" bar
>does do something to pacify the waiting user,
>I had myself missed all that extra detail
>when I first jumped from v3 to v6;
>even though suppressed by default, however,
>all the "good old stuff" is still available:

Yes, I found that much when I went thru all the Options.

>Tools > Options > "Background Tasks" [you could check-mark everything].

Good to know.

>This of course used to "float" in v3 -- you can do the same
>by dragging the "grabber" and hauling the Task Status window
>(actually combined Task/Error window) away from any edge,
>then optionally right-click within grey border area
>and play with "float" and/or other options
>("float" isn't necessary, but what it can do is change from
>an independent "always on top" window to a window having the same
>status [and MDI bar button] as any other mailbox/message window).

I will have to experiment with that.

>If "Bring task status window to front" had been checked in Options,
>then Task Status should always display during "Check mail"

Although I can live with it at the bottom I would prefer it showed up
only when sending and receiving mail like on the earlier versions..

>However, I find that unless I have "Task Status" already visible
>before a "Send," then it doesn't become visible during sending in 7.1,
>whereas it always did so in v6.2 -- yet other people have declared
>that it still becomes visible for them, even on sending,
>so there's some "YMMV" effect at this point :)

I will play with it to see if I can figure out how to get it to work
the way I want.

>Also, any time you want to make the Task Status window appear,
>you can click the first gray "depressed box" in the Status bar
>(hover the mouse pointer on first three boxes for clues);

I turned off the Status Bar.

>> Also I can't seem to get simple HTML links to work. They show up
>> as underlined in blue but nothing happens when I click on them.

>What Windows version? What's your "default browser" in Windows?

Win2K/SP4 and Mozilla. I have IE 5.5 installed.

>What happens to web links in other applications?

I do not have any other applications where they work.

I should clarify that they do work sometimes in Eudora 7.1. It's just
that they do not work all the time.

>> In addition the method of quoting has changed to vertical bars
>> on the left side. I liked it the old way, with one or more ">"
>
>See "What is format=3Dflowed?" [a Eudora invention, IIRC]
>http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1626hq.html
>
>"If, for some reason, you do not want to use format=3Dflowed
>and the excerpt bars, you can turn it off" [so they say]
>
><x-eudora-option:AlwaysExcerptResponse=3D0>
><x-eudora-option:ConvertFormatFlowedtoExcerpt=3D1>

Have you tried that? I hate to have to uninstall and reinstall Eud
7.1.

>> How do I implement the S/MIME plugin?

>Did it come with its own "ReadMe" file? In the Zip, or at:
>http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.0/SMIME_Readme.txt

I did not get any ZIP.

>> How do I get a public certificate (Verisign?)

>Thawte offers free personal certs
>(perhaps other CAs, though I don't who else)
>http://www.thawte.com/secure-email/personal-email-certificates/email_bus=
>iness.html

That's good to know.

>> As you can see I have to read the manual.

>That wouldn't hurt, but of course we want to
>drive first, take "Driver Ed" some other time :)

I have pretty much driven it enough and have RTFM too, Now I am doing
the fine tuning.

>> [trick with "user%domain(a)myisp.com" as old-style "POP account"]
>> was a Network Solutions workaround.

>Oh, so it's only for some particular SMTP servers

POP3 servers. Port 110.

>(at those locations which gave special support for Eudora,
>at least when Eudora was so much more popular).

The old Netscape embedded email client had the same problem. In fact
that's where I discovered the trick of using a "%" sign, in the Netsol
config for Netscape.


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From: Citizen Bob on 22 Mar 2007 15:55
I need to find the little pencil so I can edit sylized text. I would
use the "A" icon to clear all the style tags out.

Also where is the "blah, blah, blah" header expander.


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From: Citizen Bob on 22 Mar 2007 16:15
I just discovered that the HTML links work in the original message but
don't work when I spawn a reply.

Is there a way around that?


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From: Citizen Bob on 22 Mar 2007 18:56
>"If, for some reason, you do not want to use format=flowed
>and the excerpt bars, you can turn it off" [so they say]

><x-eudora-option:AlwaysExcerptResponse=3D0>
><x-eudora-option:ConvertFormatFlowedtoExcerpt=3D1>

I tried that but it didn't have any noticeable effect. I still have
the bars instead of ">".

Any suggestions?


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