From: Benj on
On Jul 8, 12:13 am, Michael C <michaelcochr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I just finished watching a show on the Science Channel about Stephen
> Hawking and the question of information being lost in a black hole.
> The next show is on time travel and whether or not time travel is
> possible.  I saw a show like this one before.  It might even be the
> same one.  Well, it got me thinking just now about time.  I think I
> finally figured out what time is.  A moment in time is a specific
> configuration of the universe!!  So if you want to go "back to" a
> certain moment in time, you can do so by changing the configuration of
> the universe to what it was at that moment in time.  For example, to
> bring people back to life, you'd have to reconstruct their exact
> bodies with their DNA sequences etc using the basic elements.  Does
> this make sense in theory?  It's like System Restore on a Windows
> machine - but you'd have to change the entire universe if you wanted
> to really go back to a certain moment in time.  I guess, you could
> just change the local universe and be happy with the results.  So yes,
> time travel is possible!!

Lessee. Time is your perception of events. And your perception of
events depends on the configuration of the universe. If you choose to
"time travel", then the entire universe quickly changes its
configuration to match your wishes! What a totally arrogant idea! You
must either have a God complex or are a physicist! You probably think
the standard theory that says that the moon doesn't exist until you
look at it is true too. I guess that's what happens when you get your
"science" from TV and physics gets it's money and science from the
power elite.

Look. Evidence is that time manifests as your perception of events.
Hence time is integrally connected with consciousness. If physics
weren't so hide-bound by forbidden topics, it would be obvious that
time-travel is possible. Yogis and gurus have been saying so for just
about ever. But note they travel time in their PERCEPTION of events.
It's a hint, bunky.

So how shall we model time? Imagine if you will a huge "matrix" of
physics. And by that I mean the usual scientific definition of "God".
Which is to say all matter, rules, actions, laws of nature, and in
short all that exists or is POSSIBLE to exist. Imagine not that this
matrix contains all possible events that could occur in "time". And
imagine that they are arranged to that they are "connected" in some
way which is to say one point on this matrix being a point it "time"
is causal to other points and vice versa.

Hence "time" is clearly produced by the "velocity of consciousness"
traveling over the matrix playing it like a phonograph record! Note
that in reality all events are FIXED. They all exist simultaneously.
It is your PERCEPTION of these events in your consciousness that is
strung out giving "time".

And there is another matter. That is that everyone perceives time in
synchronicity. Hence somehow there is a mechanism that "locks" all our
"consciousnesses" together. Carl Jung called this "lock" the
"Collective Unconscious". Hence this "collective" attraction if you
will maintains each of our consciousnesses on the same collective
track that we call "history" in the past, and "future" at a later
point. It is a trajectory through the matrix of existence. OK?

So now let us talk about "time travel". So how would one "travel" into
the past? Well the past is there. It is fixed in the matrix forever.
And the path we all took through the matrix at that time is also fixed
because, well, it was the path we all took! It's "history"! So say we
want to take a gander at some important historical event. How do we do
that? Well, conceptually it's easy. You simply train your
consciousness to let go of the collective unconscious and travel back
along our "historical" time line through the matrix. When you reach
the "time" in question, you stop the velocity of your consciousness
and reverse it into a "forward" direction through the matrix. At that
point you are "playing" (which to YOU seems like "experiencing")
history exactly as it happened. Got it?

But what about time travel to the future? Bad news. If as some
believe causality is a fixed and total law in the universe one COULD
do that. But as it turns out there is a thing called "free will". This
means that man has been given the ability to slightly ALTER the path
of not only YOUR consciousness into the matrix but collectively that
alters the "collective unconsciousness" as well. This means that as we
all plow into the future we have the ability to alter our collective
trajectory meaning that "history" is not "fixed" it is not "written"
as some religions seem to believe.

So, what CAN one experience when on directs one's consciousness into
the future direction of our "time line"? Clearly one cannot create
totally accurate prophesy. The above explanation shows why that is not
possible. Even God (the matrix) does not "know" the future. It's not
possible. to know it. The best one can do is to experience the "most
probable" future. And of course the changes at every moment depending
on our collective choices. And it's obvious that "God" knows all
possible events that COULD happen in the future since it's possible to
know all possible trajectories from a given "now" point. But the
trajectory that "history" actually WILL take cannot be known with
complete certainty.

Finally there is the question of "alternate universes" or "alternate
realities". Imagine if you will that in addition to pathway of the
"collective unconsciousness" that created "history" and is creating
the future, you have trained your consciousness to such a degree that
you can experience ANY path in the matrix. For example a path exactly
parallel to but displaced a distance in "time" from the pathway we
call "history". Clearly that is also a "history"! But it's not the
SAME as OUR history! Hence it appears as a "parallel universe". Sure
you can "experience" it but note that you can't simply relax and let
your consciousness "lock" to this new time line the way you can to OUR
time line. That is because there is no "collective unconscious" there
to provide the fields and forces that normally keep us all locked to
our time lines. In this case if you stop "forcing" the issue you''ll
simply be pulled by the "collective unconscious" back to our line of
"history".

Think about these things.

But please remember that I have been officially branded a "kook", a
"crackpot", a "nutcase", and have been deemed too dangerous to be
allowed to discuss physics in self-styled "official" places like the
Physics Forum where I'm banned for life. Go buy a handbook of
Chemistry and Physics. Never forget that the only "science" that is
permitted by those who control all the "professional" associations and
money is to allow you to fill in any blank places you find in your
handbook. Any attempt to extend your thoughts to forbidden topics such
as time, aether, evolution, or structure of the universe in general
will insure that you'll never be allowed to work in science for the
rest of your life. A word to the wise.

Now go read a freshman text book and be able to repeat every word you
found there. If you have any questions, please go ask "Sam Wormley"
and blindly accept everything he tells you. That is all. Dismissed.

For the record: The "velocity of consciousness" = c.

From: Michael C on
On Jul 8, 1:23 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/7/10 11:13 PM, Michael C wrote:
>
> > I just finished watching a show on the Science Channel about Stephen
> > Hawking and the question of information being lost in a black hole.
>
>    Did you find out the information is not lost?

Yep. I saw another show on the Science Channel a few weeks back where
they explained it. I didn't know there was a controversy.
They also showed how there are black holes at the centers of many
galaxies and that some galaxies have two black holes dancing around
each other, the result of two galaxies colliding into each other.
Very cool stuff.



From: Y.Porat on
On Jul 8, 6:13 am, Michael C <michaelcochr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I just finished watching a show on the Science Channel about Stephen
> Hawking and the question of information being lost in a black hole.
> The next show is on time travel and whether or not time travel is
> possible.  I saw a show like this one before.  It might even be the
> same one.  Well, it got me thinking just now about time.  I think I
> finally figured out what time is.  A moment in time is a specific
> configuration of the universe!!  So if you want to go "back to" a
> certain moment in time, you can do so by changing the configuration of
> the universe to what it was at that moment in time.  For example, to
> bring people back to life, you'd have to reconstruct their exact
> bodies with their DNA sequences etc using the basic elements.  Does
> this make sense in theory?  It's like System Restore on a Windows
> machine - but you'd have to change the entire universe if you wanted
> to really go back to a certain moment in time.  I guess, you could
> just change the local universe and be happy with the results.  So yes,
> time travel is possible!!

--------------
you cant go back in 'univeraal Time
because in order to do it
you must go back not only locally--
but you have to 'reproduce'
(restore)
**any*** (repeat any) tiny part of the
unive parts as they were before --
to be exactly relative to any other
tiny detail of the 'past universe'

iow
it is not enough to ' restore' only
*a part * of the universe

(or evn if are such many universe
it is much more impossible )


Time is nothing but - relative motion or translation --
to some (arbitrary chosen) - motion reference !!

Y.Porat
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From: Sam Wormley on
On 7/8/10 12:31 AM, Michael C wrote:
> On Jul 8, 1:23 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/7/10 11:13 PM, Michael C wrote:
>>
>>> I just finished watching a show on the Science Channel about Stephen
>>> Hawking and the question of information being lost in a black hole.
>>
>> Did you find out the information is not lost?
>
> Yep. I saw another show on the Science Channel a few weeks back where
> they explained it. I didn't know there was a controversy.

You might enjoy reading Suskind's book, "The Black Hole War: My
Battle with Stephen Hawking to Make the World Safe for Quantum
Mechanics".
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Hole-War-Stephen-Mechanics/dp/0316016403

From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 8, 5:29 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/8/10 12:31 AM, Michael C wrote:
>
> > On Jul 8, 1:23 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/7/10 11:13 PM, Michael C wrote:
>
> >>> I just finished watching a show on the Science Channel about Stephen
> >>> Hawking and the question of information being lost in a black hole.
>
> >>     Did you find out the information is not lost?
>
> > Yep.  I saw another show on the Science Channel a few weeks back where
> > they explained it.  I didn't know there was a controversy.
>
>    You might enjoy reading Suskind's book, "The Black Hole War: My
>    Battle with Stephen Hawking to Make the World Safe for Quantum
>    Mechanics".
>      http://www.amazon.com/Black-Hole-War-Stephen-Mechanics/dp/0316016403
>

that information is lost in bh
was the biggest blunder in steven hawking's career.
i still don't understand why he did believe that!

r.y