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From: Sam Wormley on 3 Aug 2010 09:44 On 8/3/10 1:01 AM, john wrote: > Modern physicists seem to have > gotten it into their heads that as soon as > things get small enough, the rules no > longer apply; electrons don't need orbitals. > John, it is YOU that seems to have your head in the sand. For example, the Schr�dinger equation plays the role logically analogous to Newton's second law. Given suitable initial conditions (typically, Psi(x,0)), the Schr�dinger equation determines Psi(x,t) for all future time, just as in classical mechanics, Newton's law determines x(t) for all future time. Simple Background http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SchroedingerEquation.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr�dinger_equation In fact a whole textbook on quantum mechanics makes sense. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/booklist.html#quantum-mechanics
From: john on 3 Aug 2010 11:10 On Aug 3, 7:44 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/3/10 1:01 AM, john wrote: > > > Modern physicists seem to have > > gotten it into their heads that as soon as > > things get small enough, the rules no > > longer apply; electrons don't need orbitals. > > John, it is YOU that seems to have your head in the sand. > > For example, the Schrödinger equation plays the role logically > analogous to Newton's second law. Given suitable initial conditions > (typically, Psi(x,0)), the Schrödinger equation determines Psi(x,t) > for all future time, just as in classical mechanics, Newton's law > determines x(t) for all future time. > > Simple Background > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SchroedingerEquation.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger_equation > > In fact a whole textbook on quantum mechanics makes sense. > > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/booklist.html#qua... Let's do a little thought experiment, Sam, where we bring the electron into the real world. In order to disappear the little darling from point A while instantaneously having it reappear at point B, there will be created an instant void at point A, which is problematic, but what is worse- when it appears at point B, if anything is there, there will be two things trying to be in the same place at the same time. Do you see a small issue with that? john
From: Sam Wormley on 3 Aug 2010 17:42
On 8/3/10 10:10 AM, john wrote: > In order to disappear the little > darling from point A while instantaneously having > it reappear at point B, there will be created an instant void > at point A, which is problematic Damn right that's problematic... the electron is not going to disappear from a measured point A to a measured point B faster than the speed of light! Any mass moving in space doesn't create void as if space had material substance. Come on John--do a little reading about the quantum world. Newton's classical mechanics is not a suitable way to think about electrons! |