From: schoenfeld.one on 16 Dec 2006 08:57 kenseto wrote: > "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts137(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:P_ogh.9355$hI.345(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... > > Eric Gisse wrote: > > > Tom Roberts wrote: > > >> For > > >> Michelson and Morley, I estimated that a 0.002 C relative change in the > > >> temperature of the air in the two arms would induce a fringe shift > > >> greater than the variation in their data. [...] > > > > > > Wow, it certainly does not take much, now does it? > > > > Right. To people who do not understand errorbars, finicky experiments > > are "better" because it is easier to interpret them as having a "real > > signal". If they would learn how to do science and _test_theories_ > > rather than trying to "detect absolute motion" [Mountain man presumably > > quoting Cahill], they would learn the error(bar) of their ways.... > > > > Two of my favorite sayings related to this: > > Scientists test theories; let engineers measure things. > > Amateurs look for patterns, professionals look at errorbars. > > What assumptions and theories you are using to calculate your errorbar???? > Do you assume that the leading edge of a light ray will hit the small > distant target? > Do you use SR to calculate your errorbar??? Roberts has been asked on other occasions to provide his calculations, but he never seems to do so.
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 16 Dec 2006 08:58 In article <1166277447.978552.62280(a)t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, schoenfeld.one(a)gmail.com wrote: > > What assumptions and theories you are using to calculate your errorbar???? > > Do you assume that the leading edge of a light ray will hit the small > > distant target? > > Do you use SR to calculate your errorbar??? > > Roberts has been asked on other occasions to provide his calculations, > but he never seems to do so. When it comes to debunking the nonsense posted about all this, its not exactly necessary. Why should people do this guys physics for him? -- Just \int_0^\infty du it! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: T Wake on 16 Dec 2006 09:07 "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:phineaspuddleduck-DF5075.13361916122006(a)free.teranews.com... > In article <o3u6o21vbev93ajhuc96bhp68qj66p6o32(a)4ax.com>, > Surfer <surfer(a)no.spam.net> wrote: > >> On 13 Dec 2006 23:18:35 -0800, karandash2000(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> > >> >1. An antirelativistic crackpot: >> > >> >> Do you believe that SR and GR are perfect ? > > Do you deny the great successes they have had explained observations? Why do the cranks demand that SR/GR be either 100% accurate for _everything_ (and make predictions about everything) *or* it must be nonsense? What theory is "perfect" if SR/GR isn't?
From: karandash2000 on 16 Dec 2006 10:22 Surfer wrote: > > How do you explain that? > Are we supposed to believe that all the editors are suckers? Dmitri Rabounski from "Regress in Physics" certainly is. On relativity subjects he publishes only the antirelativistic refuse from mainstream journals, like Rg Cahill's garbage. He's a great admirer and friend to Reg, by his own admission.
From: Dirk Van de moortel on 16 Dec 2006 10:33
<karandash2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1166282555.269324.17350(a)t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Surfer wrote: > >> >> How do you explain that? >> Are we supposed to believe that all the editors are suckers? > > Dmitri Rabounski from "Regress in Physics" certainly is. On relativity > subjects he publishes only the antirelativistic refuse from mainstream > journals, like Rg Cahill's garbage. He's a great admirer and friend to > Reg, by his own admission. Who would not want to be a great admirer and friend of the Man Who Turned The Scientific World On Its Ear? http://www.scieng.flinders.edu.au/cpes/people/cahill_r/Steene.pdf | "Flinders University theoretical physicist Reg Cahill has | turned the scientific world on its ear by claiming he has | found science's Holy Grail - the fabled Theory of | Everything." :-) Dirk Vdm |