From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
On 06/06/2010 21:12, Edward Green wrote:
> On Jun 2, 7:44 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <...>
>
>> If the equations are the same the "what REALLY happens" is just
>> philosophy or religion.
>
> I don't agree. "What we think really happens" conditions where the
> next advance is looked for. Call it what you will, humans are prone
> to interpret equations, and what we interpret will shape the form (or
> form the shape ;-) of further progress. Therefore it's worthwhile to
> try to understand what's behind the equations -- those that don't
> bother at best will make progress within the paradigm, but never
> discover the next one.

I suppose we should be grateful that the Einstein nuts never got around
to debunking Bell's Inequality :-)

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on

> On Jun 7, 4:13 am, Martin Brown<|||newspam...(a)nezumi.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Manufacturing controversy to get viewer ratings and sell books is what
>> it is all about.
>
>
>> The sad thing is that basic SR could now be understood
>> by bright secondary school students if it was taught properly.

Anyone who knows Pythagoras Th. can derive the STR equations

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/einsteinlight/jw/module4_time_dilation.htm

Dirk
From: Peter Webb on
>
> Since the controversy -- as I've demonstrated with two dozen books written
> in the last ten years--is ongoing, the only generous conclusion I can make
> is that science has failed to resolve the controversy decades after E/R
> came out.
>

No, an Amazon book search does not say anything about the state of science.
Google non-fiction books about "angels" or "Atlantis" or "9/11" and see what
truth emerges.

A disbelief in SR can very fairly be compared to a belief in a flat earth.
There are particle accelerators all over the world operating for 50+ years
that have accelerated particles to near light speed and measure these
affects on a huge scale every single day, and indeed would not operate
without SR being compensated for in the design, there is huge, compelling
and independent evidence from many other forms of experiment, astronomical
observation, satellite measurements, cosmic ray showers, blah blah blah ...

That is why there is and can be no doubt as to the fact that the equations
of SR *exactly* model the Universe as we see it, and nobody physicist
seriously disbelieves it is true.




From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
On 10/06/2010 01:29, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> On Jun 9, 5:36 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:
>> "Koobee Wublee"<koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> So, you don't understand SR after all.
>
> You don�t understand relative simultaneity. You don�t understand SR.
> There is no point to go on discussing.

Good.
Go away.
Oh... I forgot... you Einstein nuts can only get an audience in NGs like
alt.fan.jai-maharaj and cesspits of ignorance like sci.physics
Spamming us in sci.chem for good measure because it's lonely out there
in nut-land.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Google Guy on
Tom Potter wrote:

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Why is this being cross-posted to alt.comp.google?