From: bert on 2 May 2010 17:09 On May 2, 2:02 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 7:44 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 12:40 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 30, 10:13 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > > Tricky stuff first put forward by this guy Reinmann as he discribed > > > > space not being flat but with curves. > > > > "T'weren't tricky at all. The Earth is a sphere. > > > > >Einstein jumped on that and > > > > grave us GR.He told us curvature of spacetime embodies the gravity > > > > force. Hmmm Now does that space curve exist in Planck > > > > sizes(Dimentions)? I think not. How say you ? treBert > > > > Why would there necessarily be anything special happening to the > > > curvature at the Planck length, other than the notion that smaller and > > > smaller pieces of a spherical surface approximate a plane? > > > Reason for my question was that GR does not relate in the quantum > > realm. Planck length being so ultramicroscopic could make this area > > where only "special" thinking can fit. TreBert > > Well, some theoreticians think that maybe spacetime itself breaks down > in that ultramicroscopic realm. No one really knows and the math > cannot really tell us. In the end, nature will be the final arbiter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Breaking down in the quantum tiny Planck realm could be the reason on how gravity works in the macro realm with GR ,but quantum gravity is needed in the micro realm. TreBert
From: Igor on 3 May 2010 14:48 On May 2, 5:09 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 2, 2:02 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 7:44 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 30, 12:40 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 30, 10:13 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > Tricky stuff first put forward by this guy Reinmann as he discribed > > > > > space not being flat but with curves. > > > > > "T'weren't tricky at all. The Earth is a sphere. > > > > > >Einstein jumped on that and > > > > > grave us GR.He told us curvature of spacetime embodies the gravity > > > > > force. Hmmm Now does that space curve exist in Planck > > > > > sizes(Dimentions)? I think not. How say you ? treBert > > > > > Why would there necessarily be anything special happening to the > > > > curvature at the Planck length, other than the notion that smaller and > > > > smaller pieces of a spherical surface approximate a plane? > > > > Reason for my question was that GR does not relate in the quantum > > > realm. Planck length being so ultramicroscopic could make this area > > > where only "special" thinking can fit. TreBert > > > Well, some theoreticians think that maybe spacetime itself breaks down > > in that ultramicroscopic realm. No one really knows and the math > > cannot really tell us. In the end, nature will be the final arbiter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Breaking down in the quantum tiny Planck realm could be the reason on > how gravity works in the macro realm with GR ,but quantum gravity is > needed in the micro realm. TreBert What does any of that mean?
From: Huang on 4 May 2010 21:13 Impressive discussion which verges on the meaningless.
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