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From: Joe on 3 Feb 2010 06:10 On 3/02/2010 9:01 PM, Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: > http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/failed-broadband-plan-cost-30-million-20100203-ndd8.html > > > The KRudd government's $4.7 billion plan for a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) > national broadband network was unlikely ever to succeed due to a number > of significant risks, a report has found. > KRudd just had to read the newsgroups to find out more instead of twittering. > The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the failure of > the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for money, Mr Smith > said. > Some already know this. On the ETS another failure But while the government's scheme used to also have the benefit of being an ETS, in line with the global movement towards emissions trading, that movement has now stalled. If that global process doesn't restart soon, the government will be a shag on a rock with a new tax around its neck.
From: Green Lantern on 3 Feb 2010 08:37 " Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""theoldfool\"@kangarooistan.com.au is a stupid arselifting troll ."> wrote in message news:00f2ce91$0$15581$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/failed-broadband-plan-cost-30-million-20100203-ndd8.html > > The KRudd government's $4.7 billion plan for a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) > national broadband network was unlikely ever to succeed due to a number of > significant risks, a report has found. > > A National Audit Office inquiry has also found the failed tender process > came at a cost to taxpayers and project proponents of more than $30 > million. > > The FTTN plan was abandoned in April last year and replaced with the $42 > billion fibre-to-the-premises option after it was determined none of the > proposals submitted met government expectations. > > However, the audit office on Wednesday said the government had been given > "early advice" about key risks to the success of the request for proposals > process for the FTTN plan. > > Among those key risks, a non-Telstra proposal was unlikely to build and > operate a commercially viable NBN in circumstances where the proponent > might have to pay the telco to use its existing infrastructure. > > Telstra had been excluded from the tender process after failing to submit > a small-business plan as part of its proposal. > > The government was also warned the global financial crisis had > significantly reduced the prospects of a successful outcome by affecting > the viability of proposals, and that there was limited scope to upgrade a > FTTN network. > > Despite its observations, the audit office has not made any > recommendations because of the termination of the request for proposals > process. > > It did, however, raise concerns that the process had come at a cost to the > government and proponents in excess of $30 million, including some $17 > million for the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital > Economy. > > Companies bidding to build the network were left out of pocket by between > $1 million and $8 million. > > Opposition communications spokesman Tony Smith said the report showed the > entire process had been fatally flawed. > > Mr Smith said Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had "ensured more > than $30 million went down the drain". > > "It is also clear the minister ignored increasing warnings that the > process was failing." > > The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the failure of > the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for money, Mr Smith > said. > Labour are sure good at wasting money.
From: keithr on 3 Feb 2010 21:36 On 4/02/2010 12:37 AM, Green Lantern wrote: > " Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF "<""theoldfool\"@kangarooistan.com.au is > a stupid arselifting troll ."> wrote in message > news:00f2ce91$0$15581$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/failed-broadband-plan-cost-30-million-20100203-ndd8.html >> >> The KRudd government's $4.7 billion plan for a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) >> national broadband network was unlikely ever to succeed due to a number of >> significant risks, a report has found. >> >> A National Audit Office inquiry has also found the failed tender process >> came at a cost to taxpayers and project proponents of more than $30 >> million. >> >> The FTTN plan was abandoned in April last year and replaced with the $42 >> billion fibre-to-the-premises option after it was determined none of the >> proposals submitted met government expectations. >> >> However, the audit office on Wednesday said the government had been given >> "early advice" about key risks to the success of the request for proposals >> process for the FTTN plan. >> >> Among those key risks, a non-Telstra proposal was unlikely to build and >> operate a commercially viable NBN in circumstances where the proponent >> might have to pay the telco to use its existing infrastructure. >> >> Telstra had been excluded from the tender process after failing to submit >> a small-business plan as part of its proposal. >> >> The government was also warned the global financial crisis had >> significantly reduced the prospects of a successful outcome by affecting >> the viability of proposals, and that there was limited scope to upgrade a >> FTTN network. >> >> Despite its observations, the audit office has not made any >> recommendations because of the termination of the request for proposals >> process. >> >> It did, however, raise concerns that the process had come at a cost to the >> government and proponents in excess of $30 million, including some $17 >> million for the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital >> Economy. >> >> Companies bidding to build the network were left out of pocket by between >> $1 million and $8 million. >> >> Opposition communications spokesman Tony Smith said the report showed the >> entire process had been fatally flawed. >> >> Mr Smith said Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had "ensured more >> than $30 million went down the drain". >> >> "It is also clear the minister ignored increasing warnings that the >> process was failing." >> >> The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the failure of >> the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for money, Mr Smith >> said. >> > > Labour are sure good at wasting money. > > Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters to function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money, they are all as bad as each other.
From: Addinall on 3 Feb 2010 22:04 On Feb 4, 12:36 pm, keithr <kei...(a)nowhere.com.au> wrote: > On 4/02/2010 12:37 AM, Green Lantern wrote: > > > > > " Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF "<""theoldfool\"@kangarooistan.com.au is > > a stupid arselifting troll ."> wrote in message > >news:00f2ce91$0$15581$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >>http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/failed-broadband-plan-c.... > > >> The KRudd government's $4.7 billion plan for a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) > >> national broadband network was unlikely ever to succeed due to a number of > >> significant risks, a report has found. > > >> A National Audit Office inquiry has also found the failed tender process > >> came at a cost to taxpayers and project proponents of more than $30 > >> million. > > >> The FTTN plan was abandoned in April last year and replaced with the $42 > >> billion fibre-to-the-premises option after it was determined none of the > >> proposals submitted met government expectations. > > >> However, the audit office on Wednesday said the government had been given > >> "early advice" about key risks to the success of the request for proposals > >> process for the FTTN plan. > > >> Among those key risks, a non-Telstra proposal was unlikely to build and > >> operate a commercially viable NBN in circumstances where the proponent > >> might have to pay the telco to use its existing infrastructure. > > >> Telstra had been excluded from the tender process after failing to submit > >> a small-business plan as part of its proposal. > > >> The government was also warned the global financial crisis had > >> significantly reduced the prospects of a successful outcome by affecting > >> the viability of proposals, and that there was limited scope to upgrade a > >> FTTN network. > > >> Despite its observations, the audit office has not made any > >> recommendations because of the termination of the request for proposals > >> process. > > >> It did, however, raise concerns that the process had come at a cost to the > >> government and proponents in excess of $30 million, including some $17 > >> million for the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital > >> Economy. > > >> Companies bidding to build the network were left out of pocket by between > >> $1 million and $8 million. > > >> Opposition communications spokesman Tony Smith said the report showed the > >> entire process had been fatally flawed. > > >> Mr Smith said Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had "ensured more > >> than $30 million went down the drain". > > >> "It is also clear the minister ignored increasing warnings that the > >> process was failing." > > >> The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the failure of > >> the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for money, Mr Smith > >> said. > > > Labour are sure good at wasting money. > > Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted > trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters to > function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money, they are > all as bad as each other. Quite true. The Sea-Sprite was in fact a Keating government idea, that should have been scrapped when the Liberals took power. They did not scrap it untill years too late. Both are indeed, bad as each other. Mark Addinall.
From: Petzl on 3 Feb 2010 22:06
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:36:50 +1100, keithr <keithr(a)nowhere.com.au> wrote: >>> The report should ring alarm bells for Australians about the failure of >>> the Rudd government to assess risk and ensure value for money, Mr Smith >>> said. >>> >> >> Labour are sure good at wasting money. >> >> >Sure, lets not mention the billion dollars that the coalition wasted >trying to convert a bunch of clapped out second hand 60s helicopters to >function in the 21st century. When it comes to wasting money, they are >all as bad as each other. It's not wasted money to install fibre optic through the nation This is something that needed doing years ago Copper wire just don't cut it. It has left major parts of Australian capital cities without even dial-up let alone broadband I were in NZ a while ago and found even isolated small communities without telephone exchanges simply had the copper wire connected to a optic fibre point and they had no trouble with broadband and their exchanges were at least 30 miles 40 kilometre's away. In Australia unless you are within 2 kilometre's of an exchange your "broadband" struggles The Labor Party is dressing up a need of the nation as a "National Broadband Network" (NBN) that should of taken place yonks ago, as it has everywhere on the planet, except Australia and Uganda Petzl -- Our parliaments need to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law "Dieu est mon droit" |