From: Charlie E. on
Hi All,
Still working on my color reader, and getting close. Biggest problem
is that now I have almost TOO much drive on my LEDs, but that I can
deal with!

Now, to the latest problem. My system is for the visually impaired. I
just put the batteries in one of my prototypes backwards, and it
didn't last very long. While I expect this device to have very long
battery life, since it normally doesn't operate but for a second or
two, it looks like the MC1253's don't like getting reversed biased
very long. So, for my design question of the day - What is your
favorite circuit for preventing reverse bias from the batteries? The
old diode trick drops too much voltage, so wondered if there are any
clever FET tricks to block backwards voltages.

Thanks!

Charlie
From: BillyGates on
Charlie E. wrote:
> Hi All,
> Still working on my color reader, and getting close. Biggest problem
> is that now I have almost TOO much drive on my LEDs, but that I can
> deal with!
>
> Now, to the latest problem. My system is for the visually impaired. I
> just put the batteries in one of my prototypes backwards, and it
> didn't last very long. While I expect this device to have very long
> battery life, since it normally doesn't operate but for a second or
> two, it looks like the MC1253's don't like getting reversed biased
> very long. So, for my design question of the day - What is your
> favorite circuit for preventing reverse bias from the batteries? The
> old diode trick drops too much voltage, so wondered if there are any
> clever FET tricks to block backwards voltages.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Charlie

Yes, there are fet "tricks" that when reverse biased bias the fet to turn it
off. It is essentially an "active diode".

From: Hammy on
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:56:46 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
wrote:

>Hi All,
>Still working on my color reader, and getting close. Biggest problem
>is that now I have almost TOO much drive on my LEDs, but that I can
>deal with!
>
>Now, to the latest problem. My system is for the visually impaired. I
>just put the batteries in one of my prototypes backwards, and it
>didn't last very long. While I expect this device to have very long
>battery life, since it normally doesn't operate but for a second or
>two, it looks like the MC1253's don't like getting reversed biased
>very long. So, for my design question of the day - What is your
>favorite circuit for preventing reverse bias from the batteries? The
>old diode trick drops too much voltage, so wondered if there are any
>clever FET tricks to block backwards voltages.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Charlie
I usually use #2 on this page a shorting shottky.

http://www.recom-international.com/press/Reverse%20Polarity%20Protection%20for%20DC/DC%20Converters.html
From: Rich Webb on
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:56:46 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
wrote:

>Hi All,
>Still working on my color reader, and getting close. Biggest problem
>is that now I have almost TOO much drive on my LEDs, but that I can
>deal with!
>
>Now, to the latest problem. My system is for the visually impaired. I
>just put the batteries in one of my prototypes backwards, and it
>didn't last very long. While I expect this device to have very long
>battery life, since it normally doesn't operate but for a second or
>two, it looks like the MC1253's don't like getting reversed biased
>very long. So, for my design question of the day - What is your
>favorite circuit for preventing reverse bias from the batteries? The
>old diode trick drops too much voltage, so wondered if there are any
>clever FET tricks to block backwards voltages.

This http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/636 Maxim appnote
describes the pros and cons of several standard approaches.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: Joerg on
Hammy wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:56:46 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Still working on my color reader, and getting close. Biggest problem
>> is that now I have almost TOO much drive on my LEDs, but that I can
>> deal with!
>>
>> Now, to the latest problem. My system is for the visually impaired. I
>> just put the batteries in one of my prototypes backwards, and it
>> didn't last very long. While I expect this device to have very long
>> battery life, since it normally doesn't operate but for a second or
>> two, it looks like the MC1253's don't like getting reversed biased
>> very long. So, for my design question of the day - What is your
>> favorite circuit for preventing reverse bias from the batteries? The
>> old diode trick drops too much voltage, so wondered if there are any
>> clever FET tricks to block backwards voltages.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Charlie
> I usually use #2 on this page a shorting shottky.
>
> http://www.recom-international.com/press/Reverse%20Polarity%20Protection%20for%20DC/DC%20Converters.html


That renders the unit dead and a blind or almost blind person will have
a hard time finding or buying the proper fuse and installing it.

Charlie: Solution #3 is the ticket (look on Hammy's link). But make sure
that the FET is guaranteed to be fully turned on at the lowest allowed
battery voltage, IOW the point where an UVLO comes on.

--
Regards, Joerg

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