From: Jerry Avins on
Eric Jacobsen wrote:
> On 2/10/2010 10:11 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>> Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three.
>>>>> Where is that?
>>>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple.
>>>>
>>>> look look look ...
>>>>
>>>> 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one
>>>> brim to
>>>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits:
>>>> and a
>>>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major.
>>
>> Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not?
>>
>> Jerry
>
> http://www.realoldtestament.com/HomePage.html
>
> Also, click on "Covenant"

Trying to reconcile the world and the Book is a lot of work, especially
as there's more than one version of the Book to reconcile to. How should
Genesis 1:27 (So God created human beings in his own image. In the
image of God he created them; male and female he created them.)* be
squared with Genesis 2:18 (Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for
the man to be alone. I will make a helper who is just right for him.")*
followed by talk about a rib? Fortunately for me, I don't have to. I
just don't care.

Jerry
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* New Living Translation (©2007)
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From: Michael Plante on
Jerry Avins wrote:
>Tim Wescott wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>
>>> Randy Yates wrote:
>>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three.
>>>> Where is that?
>>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple.
>>>
>>> look look look ...
>>>
>>> 1 Kings 4:23.

No, 1 Kings 7:23.


>>> "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to
>>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and
a
>>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
>>>
>>> Jerry

One of the first few hits when I googled "ten cubits from the one brim" (no
quotes):

http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/pi.htm

Short version: the measurements are not redundant. One is an interior
measurement, and one is an exterior measurement. That said, there isn't a
"standard cubit" sitting in Jerusalem or something. ;)



>>
>> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major.
>
>Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not?

Inspired, but not dictated word-for-word. Nevertheless, error-free in the
original languages. No, I don't have time to answer every one of these,
nor am I likely to know the answer to every question you can raise, but
Google is your friend. The basic rule for interpretation (predicated on
believing the Bible) is: if ones encounters an apparent contradiction,
his/her interpretation is wrong. Of course, if you don't believe it, you
can interpret it however you want and find all sorts of problems.

From: emeb on
On Feb 10, 7:46 pm, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> Randy Yates wrote:
> > Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> writes:
> >> [...]
> >> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three.
>
> > Where is that?
>
> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple.
>
> look look look ...
>
> 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to
> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and a
> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."

That's fantastic. The actual reference is 1 Kings 7:23 though:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings+7:23&version=KJV

Eric
From: Jerry Avins on
Michael Plante wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three.
>>>>> Where is that?
>>>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple.
>>>>
>>>> look look look ...
>>>>
>>>> 1 Kings 4:23.
>
> No, 1 Kings 7:23.
>
>
>>>> "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to
>>>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and
> a
>>>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>
> One of the first few hits when I googled "ten cubits from the one brim" (no
> quotes):
>
> http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/pi.htm
>
> Short version: the measurements are not redundant. One is an interior
> measurement, and one is an exterior measurement. That said, there isn't a
> "standard cubit" sitting in Jerusalem or something. ;)
>
>
>
>>> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major.
>> Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not?
>
> Inspired, but not dictated word-for-word. Nevertheless, error-free in the
> original languages. No, I don't have time to answer every one of these,
> nor am I likely to know the answer to every question you can raise, but
> Google is your friend. The basic rule for interpretation (predicated on
> believing the Bible) is: if ones encounters an apparent contradiction,
> his/her interpretation is wrong. Of course, if you don't believe it, you
> can interpret it however you want and find all sorts of problems.

If you don't believe it, they aren't problems. There is nothing quite so
inherently self contradictory as a proselytizing atheist.

Jerry
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From: Jerry Avins on
emeb wrote:
> On Feb 10, 7:46 pm, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>> Randy Yates wrote:
>>> Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three.
>>> Where is that?
>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple.
>>
>> look look look ...
>>
>> 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to
>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and a
>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
>
> That's fantastic. The actual reference is 1 Kings 7:23 though:
>
> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings+7:23&version=KJV

Sorry about the typo.

Jerry
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