From: Jerry Avins on 11 Feb 2010 15:13 Eric Jacobsen wrote: > On 2/10/2010 10:11 PM, Jerry Avins wrote: >> Tim Wescott wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote: >>> >>>> Randy Yates wrote: >>>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three. >>>>> Where is that? >>>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple. >>>> >>>> look look look ... >>>> >>>> 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one >>>> brim to >>>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: >>>> and a >>>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." >>>> >>>> Jerry >>> >>> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major. >> >> Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not? >> >> Jerry > > http://www.realoldtestament.com/HomePage.html > > Also, click on "Covenant" Trying to reconcile the world and the Book is a lot of work, especially as there's more than one version of the Book to reconcile to. How should Genesis 1:27 (So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.)* be squared with Genesis 2:18 (Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper who is just right for him.")* followed by talk about a rib? Fortunately for me, I don't have to. I just don't care. Jerry ___________________________ * New Living Translation (©2007) -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
From: Michael Plante on 11 Feb 2010 15:41 Jerry Avins wrote: >Tim Wescott wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote: >> >>> Randy Yates wrote: >>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes: >>>>> [...] >>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three. >>>> Where is that? >>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple. >>> >>> look look look ... >>> >>> 1 Kings 4:23. No, 1 Kings 7:23. >>> "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to >>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and a >>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." >>> >>> Jerry One of the first few hits when I googled "ten cubits from the one brim" (no quotes): http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/pi.htm Short version: the measurements are not redundant. One is an interior measurement, and one is an exterior measurement. That said, there isn't a "standard cubit" sitting in Jerusalem or something. ;) >> >> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major. > >Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not? Inspired, but not dictated word-for-word. Nevertheless, error-free in the original languages. No, I don't have time to answer every one of these, nor am I likely to know the answer to every question you can raise, but Google is your friend. The basic rule for interpretation (predicated on believing the Bible) is: if ones encounters an apparent contradiction, his/her interpretation is wrong. Of course, if you don't believe it, you can interpret it however you want and find all sorts of problems.
From: emeb on 11 Feb 2010 16:07 On Feb 10, 7:46 pm, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > Randy Yates wrote: > > Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> writes: > >> [...] > >> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three. > > > Where is that? > > In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple. > > look look look ... > > 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to > the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and a > line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." That's fantastic. The actual reference is 1 Kings 7:23 though: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings+7:23&version=KJV Eric
From: Jerry Avins on 11 Feb 2010 16:19 Michael Plante wrote: > Jerry Avins wrote: >> Tim Wescott wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:46:32 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote: >>> >>>> Randy Yates wrote: >>>>> Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> writes: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three. >>>>> Where is that? >>>> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple. >>>> >>>> look look look ... >>>> >>>> 1 Kings 4:23. > > No, 1 Kings 7:23. > > >>>> "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to >>>> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and > a >>>> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." >>>> >>>> Jerry > > One of the first few hits when I googled "ten cubits from the one brim" (no > quotes): > > http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/pi.htm > > Short version: the measurements are not redundant. One is an interior > measurement, and one is an exterior measurement. That said, there isn't a > "standard cubit" sitting in Jerusalem or something. ;) > > > >>> Clearly written by a fuzzy studies major. >> Is the Bible the word of God, or is it not? > > Inspired, but not dictated word-for-word. Nevertheless, error-free in the > original languages. No, I don't have time to answer every one of these, > nor am I likely to know the answer to every question you can raise, but > Google is your friend. The basic rule for interpretation (predicated on > believing the Bible) is: if ones encounters an apparent contradiction, > his/her interpretation is wrong. Of course, if you don't believe it, you > can interpret it however you want and find all sorts of problems. If you don't believe it, they aren't problems. There is nothing quite so inherently self contradictory as a proselytizing atheist. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
From: Jerry Avins on 11 Feb 2010 16:20
emeb wrote: > On Feb 10, 7:46 pm, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> Randy Yates wrote: >>> Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> writes: >>>> [...] >>>> According to one passage in the Bible, pi is three. >>> Where is that? >> In the old testament, a the descriptions of a vessel in the Temple. >> >> look look look ... >> >> 1 Kings 4:23. "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to >> the other: it was round all about, and its height was five cubits: and a >> line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." > > That's fantastic. The actual reference is 1 Kings 7:23 though: > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings+7:23&version=KJV Sorry about the typo. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. ����������������������������������������������������������������������� |