Firefox 4 Aims to Be "Fast, Powerful, and Empowering"
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From: H-Man on 12 May 2010 10:31 On Wed, 12 May 2010 00:21:41 -0700, John Corliss wrote: > Thanks for that info. However, I don't understand this drive everybody > has to hide the menu. Hiding the menu (which I use all the time) simply > adds another step to accessing anything. To my way of thinking, *that* > is bloat. Yeah, I agree. I'm not sure why this is the current drive unless it's because the new or even average user doesn't ever use them. I personally prefer the menu / button interface as it is. -- HK
From: »Q« on 12 May 2010 17:04 In <news:up-dnWFWD--aynfWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)posted.ccountrynet>, John Corliss <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > »Q« wrote: > > I haven't followed developments for the past couple of months, but > > at that time (and for a long time before that) the plan was to have > > the menus hidden by default but have GUI for turning them back on. > > Thanks for that info. However, I don't understand this drive > everybody has to hide the menu. Hiding the menu (which I use all the > time) simply adds another step to accessing anything. To my way of > thinking, *that* is bloat. It's because research has shown that most people don't use the menus. They just click things on web pages. There was even talk about hiding the address bar at one point.
From: »Q« on 12 May 2010 22:25 In <news:mr9mu59s7fl0uq5l9aenclcr4bdr54anri(a)4ax.com>, Manatee Memories <See(a)the.REPLYTO.entry> wrote: > >In <news:up-dnWFWD--aynfWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)posted.ccountrynet>, > >John Corliss <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> »Q« wrote: > > > >> > I haven't followed developments for the past couple of months, > >> > but at that time (and for a long time before that) the plan was > >> > to have the menus hidden by default but have GUI for turning > >> > them back on. > >> > >> Thanks for that info. However, I don't understand this drive > >> everybody has to hide the menu. Hiding the menu (which I use all > >> the time) simply adds another step to accessing anything. To my > >> way of thinking, *that* is bloat. > > > >It's because research has shown that most people don't use the > >menus. > > In that case, then most people are mentally-deficient (see my below). I only use the menu items to get to a few items added by extensions. If I were just using an out-of-the-box Firefox, I can't think what use I'd have for the menus. [big snip] > And all because, imho, she clicked on _everything_ in sight. Hiding > the menu[s] would have helped her not-at-all. Your lengthy story didn't have any relevance to hiding/unhiding menus. People who tend to click to malware are helped some by the anti-malware and anti-phishing features, which are on by default.
From: John Corliss on 13 May 2010 06:44 »Q« wrote: > Manatee Memories wrote: >>> John Corliss wrote: >>>> »Q« wrote: >>> >>>>> I haven't followed developments for the past couple of months, >>>>> but at that time (and for a long time before that) the plan was >>>>> to have the menus hidden by default but have GUI for turning >>>>> them back on. >>>> >>>> Thanks for that info. However, I don't understand this drive >>>> everybody has to hide the menu. Hiding the menu (which I use all >>>> the time) simply adds another step to accessing anything. To my >>>> way of thinking, *that* is bloat. >>> >>> It's because research has shown that most people don't use the >>> menus. >> >> In that case, then most people are mentally-deficient (see my below). > > I only use the menu items to get to a few items added by extensions. > If I were just using an out-of-the-box Firefox, I can't think what use > I'd have for the menus. > > [big snip] I prefer accessing my bookmarks from the dropdown menu item rather than clicking on the Bookmarks button and having a huge frame open up, scrunching the current website into a much smaller area. Same thing goes for the history. Regardless, there are many people like me who are used to using the menu and for us, it's irritating to have to hunt for it. As long as the developers make permanently exposing the menu an option, I guess I can survive the new change. I still say they're just sheeping after Microsoft though. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (like x-privat.org for eg.) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please. Adobe Flash sucks, DivX rules.
From: occam on 13 May 2010 09:13
On 12/05/2010 03:38, baynole2(a)yahoo.com wrote: > On May 11, 7:41 am, ffo wrote: >> http://lifehacker.com/5535978/firefox-4-aims-to-be-fast-powerful-and-... >> Firefox Product Director Mike Beltzner gave a presentation yesterday >> about Mozilla's vision for Firefox 4, the next major revision of the >> open-source browser. The three pillars of the big plan are standards >> support, full user control, and "super-duper fast" speeds >> >> Chrome is so yesterday. > > Wonder if Ff4 will give you any control over cookies?? Wonder if FF4 will achieve what it aims for. ('Tis easy to aim...) |