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From: Arno on 9 Jan 2010 13:48 Ed Light <nobody(a)nobody.there> wrote: > Rod Speed. Ugh. Had forgotten him. Guess I'll have to filter out > everyone who answers him, too. Hope I don't miss some good info. Hehe. Cut the nwecomers some slack, most wise up pretty fast. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Rod Speed on 9 Jan 2010 17:22 Cronos wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> And when we keep telling fools like you that defragging wont >> have any effect at all on anything except file copys with real >> world personal desktop systems, fools like you call us an >> idiot for rubbing your pig ignorant noses in those basics. > Well, I haven't seen any of you provide concrete data to back up your claims Dont need any when even you noticed that the defrag takes FAR more time than you can ever possibly save. > so it is still just hearsay. Nope, just not explicitly quantified.
From: Cronos on 9 Jan 2010 22:35 David Brown wrote: > Nothing came close to being a sensible explanation of the claimed effects. > OK, I sent them your comments and am not going to post any more on the subject. I will just have to find out for myself because there sure are lots of people out there giving false info if what you say is correct, an awful lot.
From: Timothy Daniels on 10 Jan 2010 00:06 "Rod Speed" opined: > ...the defrag takes FAR more time than you can ever possibly save. Unless, of course, the defrag is done when the computer isn't being used... But then, most people must like to watch, judging by the complaints when Microsoft abandoned the pretty file fragmentation map in Vista's defragger GUI. I must admit, though, that I liked watching the map, too. It was very satisfying to see the red lines disappear, to be replaced by solid blue regions. *TimDaniels*
From: David Brown on 10 Jan 2010 06:38
Cronos wrote: > David Brown wrote: > >> Nothing came close to being a sensible explanation of the claimed >> effects. >> > > OK, I sent them your comments and am not going to post any more on the > subject. I will just have to find out for myself because there sure are > lots of people out there giving false info if what you say is correct, > an awful lot. There are indeed lots of people, many claiming to be experts, giving false information on many subjects in IT - fragmentation is only one of them. Some of these are historical - fragmentation definitely used to be a major problem in the DOS/Windows world (*nix and other systems all handle fragmentation far better, and always have done). Some of it is due to commercial forces - there are companies making a living out of selling defragmentation software, and they need people to believe it makes a difference. Sometimes it is due to mixing other effects ("I cleared out my cache and temp directories, ran a registry tidier, ran a spyware/adware remover, and defragged my disk - now the system runs faster. Therefore defragging makes a difference"). Ultimately, only /you/ can say if defragging makes a difference for /you/, on /your/ system, and the way /you/ use the computer. |