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From: Ofnuts on 2 Feb 2010 17:38
On 02/02/2010 22:23, NameHere wrote:

> And yet it doesn't refute what was stated, not one bit.

Because what you say is irrefutable. Any of us can also boast that he
can make the best photos in the world, and then refuse to show any to
prove it. You are on the same stand as religious miracles. Either we
believe, or we don't. Practical evidence is that there is no gain in
believing in the Holy P&S of Antioche, or in His Prophet, since His ways
are unfathomable and the Brand and Model of the Holy P&S that blows thy
enemy's DSLR to tiny bits shall be kept secret. So far NameHereism
hasn't gathered many followers, because even though there are plenty of
gullible people on this planet, they still want to see something (read:
a hint that God has some interest in them). But we are more likely to
see proof of extraterrestrial intelligence than a picture from the Holy
P&S or the Prophet, let alone a good one.

--
Bertrand, agnostic
From: NameHere on 2 Feb 2010 19:57
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:38:44 +0100, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net>
wrote:

>On 02/02/2010 22:23, NameHere wrote:
>
>> And yet it doesn't refute what was stated, not one bit.
>
>Because what you say is irrefutable. Any of us can also boast that he
>can make the best photos in the world, and then refuse to show any to
>prove it. You are on the same stand as religious miracles. Either we
>believe, or we don't. Practical evidence is that there is no gain in
>believing in the Holy P&S of Antioche, or in His Prophet, since His ways
>are unfathomable and the Brand and Model of the Holy P&S that blows thy
>enemy's DSLR to tiny bits shall be kept secret. So far NameHereism
>hasn't gathered many followers, because even though there are plenty of
>gullible people on this planet, they still want to see something (read:
>a hint that God has some interest in them). But we are more likely to
>see proof of extraterrestrial intelligence than a picture from the Holy
>P&S or the Prophet, let alone a good one.

That's because you and your kind are the most lost of all.

"There are none so lost as those who follow."

Think about it. I'm sure you have the time. You probably don't have the
mental acuity to comprehend that, but you most certainly have the time.

Only DSLR proponents are followers. They can never think for themselves.
Even worse, they doubt their choices so much that they don't feel
vindicated unless they can convince everyone else to believe as they
believe and make the same camera purchasing mistakes that they make in
life. The greater their insistence to have others buy DSLRs the more they
show their insecurity in their own decision to do so. Just like those who
doubt their religions the most, always being the most vocal about wanting
others to believe as they do. Because if they can convince someone else,
then perhaps they can stop doubting their own beliefs so much. It's that
simple.

Further, there is no need to prove anything to the likes of you. True
professionals who have used all manner of cameras discover what I said all
on their own. They already know these things of which I speak. I'm just
letting you know how true professionals think. You, on the other hand, are
revealing to the whole world your thoughts of a snapshooting,
blind-following, DSLR-preaching, insecure fool.

Go ahead, prove it some more. It's fun watching you fools continue to do
so.


From: BD on 2 Feb 2010 20:22

> blind-following, DSLR-preaching, insecure fool.

I'd like to find a P&S that allows the use of remote slave flashes for
better control of subject lighting.

And that allows for apertures wider than f/4.

And supports the use of RAW files for post-adjustment as necessary.

And supports continuous focus for tracking of moving subject in burst
mode.

Oh... and that *has* a burst mode to speak of.


Can you name a P&S that does all these things?


.... cue Jeopardy music...
From: NameHere on 2 Feb 2010 20:39
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:22:59 -0800 (PST), BD <robert.drea(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> blind-following, DSLR-preaching, insecure fool.
>
>I'd like to find a P&S that allows the use of remote slave flashes for
>better control of subject lighting.

They all can.

>
>And that allows for apertures wider than f/4.

Most do. Some zoom models have apertures as much as f/2.0. You've clearly
never even bothered to look for yourself.

>
>And supports the use of RAW files for post-adjustment as necessary.

Many do, but mostly its not necessary. Because the RAW to JPG conversion is
done properly in the camera in the first place. RAW is only for people who
can't expose their images properly in the first place.

>
>And supports continuous focus for tracking of moving subject in burst
>mode.

Some of them do. But since you're a machine-gunning snapshooter I suggest
you stay with an auto-everything P&S DSLR because your camera requirements
prove that you're not capable of using any camera in full manual modes.

>
>Oh... and that *has* a burst mode to speak of.

Many do, but those who use them professionally find little use for burst
modes except for special circumstances, like hand-held bracketing
sequences. Professionals know when to time their shots by knowing their
subjects. Usually just one click and the deed is done.

>
>
>Can you name a P&S that does all these things?
>

Yes, I can.

And so can you if you do your own simple homework.

From: BD on 3 Feb 2010 02:06

> Many do, but mostly its not necessary. Because the RAW to JPG conversion is
> done properly in the camera in the first place. RAW is only for people who
> can't expose their images properly in the first place.

That's like saying automatic transmissions exist for people who don't
know how to use a clutch. The technology's there, so use it. There's a
thin line between purist and luddite.
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