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From: David DeLaney on 9 Mar 2010 20:31 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight. > >So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle? It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck. Dave -- \/David DeLaney posting from dbd(a)vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
From: Peter Webb on 10 Mar 2010 01:38 "David DeLaney" <dbd(a)gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote in message news:slrnhpeiok.l2i.dbd(a)gatekeeper.vic.com... > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> > wrote: >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight. >> >>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle? > > It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck. > A very one-sided opinion.
From: R H Draney on 10 Mar 2010 03:22 David DeLaney filted: > >Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight. >> >>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle? > >It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck. Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: Chuck Riggs on 10 Mar 2010 06:31 On 10 Mar 2010 00:22:05 -0800, R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote: >David DeLaney filted: >> >>Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight. >>> >>>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle? >> >>It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck. > >Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r No can do. She's in another dimension. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard on 10 Mar 2010 10:29
> >>> >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and >>> any scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight. >>> >> So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due >> to gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle? >> > It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck. > Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or non-rotating? |