From: Bob Willard on
Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps) wrote:
>> And elsewhere, and more commonly, it's called a "high-level format", as
>> opposed to a "low-level format". Were M. Toylet to put that phrase into
>> xyr favourite WWW search engine, xe would find lots of information on
>> the subject.
>>
>
> Yes, but why can't customers do a low-level format again AFTER YEARS of
> use? Why should customers rely on SMART?
>
>

Get one of the many utilities that will write zeros to the entire HD,
then repartition, then reformat (the high-level format).

The other way to get a newly formatted HD is to buy a new one.
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From: Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps) on
> Get one of the many utilities that will write zeros to the entire HD,
> then repartition, then reformat (the high-level format).
>
> The other way to get a newly formatted HD is to buy a new one.

How could I tell the utility not to retry a bad sector to save time? I
want it to mark a sector as bad when it fails to read it on the FIRST
TIME (aka, NO MERCY)!

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From: Arno on
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Christian Franke <Christian.Franke(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> Arno wrote:
>>
>> One thing you can try is to overwrite the disk/partition before
>> a format. That would trigger the reallocation process for sectors
>> known to be bad. The other option I see is using a "RAID edition"
>> drive or one that does support time limited error recovery and set
>> that. However I have no idea how to do that.
>>


> Some recent disks support the SCT Error Recovery Control (ERC) command
> specified in ATA-8 ACS. The command allows to read and set the time limits.

> It is supported by HDAT2 and by recent builds of smartctl.

Ah, good to know. smartctl keeps getting better!

Arno
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From: Franc Zabkar on
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:36:07 +0800, "Man-wai Chang to The Door
(24000bps)" <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>Right now, the Format process would retry again and again for long time
>when a bad sector was hit. I don't want the process to retry, and just
>mark it as bad.

Makebad will do exactly what you want:
http://files.hddguru.com/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Software/Makebad

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From: Arno on
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage "Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps)" <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Get one of the many utilities that will write zeros to the entire HD,
>> then repartition, then reformat (the high-level format).
>>
>> The other way to get a newly formatted HD is to buy a new one.

> How could I tell the utility not to retry a bad sector to save time? I
> want it to mark a sector as bad when it fails to read it on the FIRST
> TIME (aka, NO MERCY)!

The utility does not do the retry. The disk does. It is somewhat
justified to do so as modern HDDs need more effort occasionaly
than old ones did.

Arno
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